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Poison Arrows Piercing damage reduced to 0, do you still get poisoned?


Does a zero-damage attack still count as a hit?Damage reduction and damage resistance: how to calculate?Do damage resistance and temp hit points from False Life and the Heavy Armor Master feat stack?When does Armor of Agathys take effect?Should the damage from an unarmed strike be reduced by Heavy Armor Master?Does the Heavy Armor Master feat reduce damage twice against a mixed damage attack?Are Erinyes' Hellish Weapons poisonous in a PC's hands?How can I gain resistance to piercing, bludgeoning, and slashing damage while in heavy armor?Damage reduction and damage resistance: how to calculate?Homebrewing a Naga: Is this option a balanced substitute for Magical Resistance?Does the Polearm Master attack work with poison?Is there a creature that is resistant or immune to damage from a non-magical source other than bludgeoning, slashing, and piercing?






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I have created a fighter, who is using heavy armor and has the Heavy Armor Master feat.



The Heavy Armor Master Feat states that:




While you are wearing Heavy Armor, bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage that you take from non-magical Weapons is reduced by 3.




This character was shot and hit, by a longbow loaded with a poison arrow.



The attack did 2 Piercing and 5 Poison damage.



Because of the HAM feat, the piercing was reduced to 0, and then comes the question....



Because the arrow did not pierce, presumably because the armor absorbed the hit, should the character still be affected by the poison damage ?



The shooter was a Yuan-ti pureblood, presumably neither the Longbow, arrow, or poison was "magical"










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I have created a fighter, who is using heavy armor and has the Heavy Armor Master feat.



The Heavy Armor Master Feat states that:




While you are wearing Heavy Armor, bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage that you take from non-magical Weapons is reduced by 3.




This character was shot and hit, by a longbow loaded with a poison arrow.



The attack did 2 Piercing and 5 Poison damage.



Because of the HAM feat, the piercing was reduced to 0, and then comes the question....



Because the arrow did not pierce, presumably because the armor absorbed the hit, should the character still be affected by the poison damage ?



The shooter was a Yuan-ti pureblood, presumably neither the Longbow, arrow, or poison was "magical"










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I have created a fighter, who is using heavy armor and has the Heavy Armor Master feat.



The Heavy Armor Master Feat states that:




While you are wearing Heavy Armor, bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage that you take from non-magical Weapons is reduced by 3.




This character was shot and hit, by a longbow loaded with a poison arrow.



The attack did 2 Piercing and 5 Poison damage.



Because of the HAM feat, the piercing was reduced to 0, and then comes the question....



Because the arrow did not pierce, presumably because the armor absorbed the hit, should the character still be affected by the poison damage ?



The shooter was a Yuan-ti pureblood, presumably neither the Longbow, arrow, or poison was "magical"










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I have created a fighter, who is using heavy armor and has the Heavy Armor Master feat.



The Heavy Armor Master Feat states that:




While you are wearing Heavy Armor, bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage that you take from non-magical Weapons is reduced by 3.




This character was shot and hit, by a longbow loaded with a poison arrow.



The attack did 2 Piercing and 5 Poison damage.



Because of the HAM feat, the piercing was reduced to 0, and then comes the question....



Because the arrow did not pierce, presumably because the armor absorbed the hit, should the character still be affected by the poison damage ?



The shooter was a Yuan-ti pureblood, presumably neither the Longbow, arrow, or poison was "magical"







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Well, technically you don't get poisoned (which is a condition), but you take poison damage. You could argue that it doesn't make sense because the armor "absorbed the hit", but that is not what Heavy Armor Master implies.



Not getting hit is already determined by your armor class, the fact that the attack hit but the damage was then lowered a bit means the poison arrow did, in fact, get past your character's armor, your character is just tough enough to shrug off a bit of the piercing damage. The same can not be said for the poison damage.






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    If it helps, the OP can think of it as reducing the hit from the arrow sinking into the flesh to just scratching the skin. Just enough for the poison to get in.
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Theik definitely has the gist of it. The poison damage here is not negated by the damage reduction of the HAM ability. That's what HAM gives you here, Damage Reduction 3 vs. bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. You may find this question about Damage Reduction useful, as well as this one about 0-damage attacks.






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    HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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Well, technically you don't get poisoned (which is a condition), but you take poison damage. You could argue that it doesn't make sense because the armor "absorbed the hit", but that is not what Heavy Armor Master implies.



Not getting hit is already determined by your armor class, the fact that the attack hit but the damage was then lowered a bit means the poison arrow did, in fact, get past your character's armor, your character is just tough enough to shrug off a bit of the piercing damage. The same can not be said for the poison damage.






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    If it helps, the OP can think of it as reducing the hit from the arrow sinking into the flesh to just scratching the skin. Just enough for the poison to get in.
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Well, technically you don't get poisoned (which is a condition), but you take poison damage. You could argue that it doesn't make sense because the armor "absorbed the hit", but that is not what Heavy Armor Master implies.



Not getting hit is already determined by your armor class, the fact that the attack hit but the damage was then lowered a bit means the poison arrow did, in fact, get past your character's armor, your character is just tough enough to shrug off a bit of the piercing damage. The same can not be said for the poison damage.






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Well, technically you don't get poisoned (which is a condition), but you take poison damage. You could argue that it doesn't make sense because the armor "absorbed the hit", but that is not what Heavy Armor Master implies.



Not getting hit is already determined by your armor class, the fact that the attack hit but the damage was then lowered a bit means the poison arrow did, in fact, get past your character's armor, your character is just tough enough to shrug off a bit of the piercing damage. The same can not be said for the poison damage.






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Well, technically you don't get poisoned (which is a condition), but you take poison damage. You could argue that it doesn't make sense because the armor "absorbed the hit", but that is not what Heavy Armor Master implies.



Not getting hit is already determined by your armor class, the fact that the attack hit but the damage was then lowered a bit means the poison arrow did, in fact, get past your character's armor, your character is just tough enough to shrug off a bit of the piercing damage. The same can not be said for the poison damage.







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Theik definitely has the gist of it. The poison damage here is not negated by the damage reduction of the HAM ability. That's what HAM gives you here, Damage Reduction 3 vs. bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. You may find this question about Damage Reduction useful, as well as this one about 0-damage attacks.






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    Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. You want to clarify what you mean with the last sentence, as I'm not sure what DR means in D&D 5e. Good Luck and Happy Gaming!
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    HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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    @PixelMaster DR/3 indicates "damage reduction of 3" rather than division.
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    I agree, the division symbol / will be confusing to many, even if some read it as "damage reduction of three".
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    Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
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Theik definitely has the gist of it. The poison damage here is not negated by the damage reduction of the HAM ability. That's what HAM gives you here, Damage Reduction 3 vs. bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. You may find this question about Damage Reduction useful, as well as this one about 0-damage attacks.






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    Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. You want to clarify what you mean with the last sentence, as I'm not sure what DR means in D&D 5e. Good Luck and Happy Gaming!
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    HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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    @PixelMaster DR/3 indicates "damage reduction of 3" rather than division.
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    I agree, the division symbol / will be confusing to many, even if some read it as "damage reduction of three".
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    Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
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Theik definitely has the gist of it. The poison damage here is not negated by the damage reduction of the HAM ability. That's what HAM gives you here, Damage Reduction 3 vs. bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing. You may find this question about Damage Reduction useful, as well as this one about 0-damage attacks.







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    HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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    Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
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    HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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    @PixelMaster DR/3 indicates "damage reduction of 3" rather than division.
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    I agree, the division symbol / will be confusing to many, even if some read it as "damage reduction of three".
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    Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
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Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour if you haven't already, and check out the help center for more guidance. You want to clarify what you mean with the last sentence, as I'm not sure what DR means in D&D 5e. Good Luck and Happy Gaming!
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HAM also doesn't divide the damage by 3 (as your last sentence seems to imply), it subtracts 3 damage. If you take 12 damage with HAM, it's reduced to 9 - not 4.
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@PixelMaster DR/3 indicates "damage reduction of 3" rather than division.
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@PixelMaster DR/3 indicates "damage reduction of 3" rather than division.
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I agree, the division symbol / will be confusing to many, even if some read it as "damage reduction of three".
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I agree, the division symbol / will be confusing to many, even if some read it as "damage reduction of three".
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Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
$endgroup$
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Well I flipped it around so that it'll hopefully be less confusing. Does 5e not have DR as a common stat anymore? That's how it used to be shown. I haven't played any campaigns that were beyond 3.5/Pathfinder.
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