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Just for fun, I want to create a character who can vary from really tiny or smaller to huge or bigger.



Which is the bigger/smaller combination to create that "Ant Man" style char?



It can:



  • Be from any race.

  • Be from any class.

  • Use any magical-item combination.

  • Use temporary buffs/magic, but only if can use it himself. (Don't need another player/NPC)

  • Be level 20.

  • Size changes can be in any form. Does not have to maintain original shape/race/type.

The more vanilla, the better.










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    It can be in any shape/form. It's more Antman like if it's the same, but I am only looking for the size.
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Just for fun, I want to create a character who can vary from really tiny or smaller to huge or bigger.



Which is the bigger/smaller combination to create that "Ant Man" style char?



It can:



  • Be from any race.

  • Be from any class.

  • Use any magical-item combination.

  • Use temporary buffs/magic, but only if can use it himself. (Don't need another player/NPC)

  • Be level 20.

  • Size changes can be in any form. Does not have to maintain original shape/race/type.

The more vanilla, the better.










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    Do you have a level requirement in mind?
    $endgroup$
    – Someone_Evil
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Someone_Evil 20.
    $endgroup$
    – Malkev
    3 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Are you counting effects like Wild Shape and polymorph?
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    2 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Does the PC have to stay in the same shape (example: begins as a dwarf, must look like a dwarf from largest to smallest) or can the PC change forms?
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
    2 hours ago






  • 1




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    It can be in any shape/form. It's more Antman like if it's the same, but I am only looking for the size.
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    – Malkev
    1 hour ago













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Just for fun, I want to create a character who can vary from really tiny or smaller to huge or bigger.



Which is the bigger/smaller combination to create that "Ant Man" style char?



It can:



  • Be from any race.

  • Be from any class.

  • Use any magical-item combination.

  • Use temporary buffs/magic, but only if can use it himself. (Don't need another player/NPC)

  • Be level 20.

  • Size changes can be in any form. Does not have to maintain original shape/race/type.

The more vanilla, the better.










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Just for fun, I want to create a character who can vary from really tiny or smaller to huge or bigger.



Which is the bigger/smaller combination to create that "Ant Man" style char?



It can:



  • Be from any race.

  • Be from any class.

  • Use any magical-item combination.

  • Use temporary buffs/magic, but only if can use it himself. (Don't need another player/NPC)

  • Be level 20.

  • Size changes can be in any form. Does not have to maintain original shape/race/type.

The more vanilla, the better.







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    @Someone_Evil 20.
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    – Malkev
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    Are you counting effects like Wild Shape and polymorph?
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
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    Does the PC have to stay in the same shape (example: begins as a dwarf, must look like a dwarf from largest to smallest) or can the PC change forms?
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
    2 hours ago






  • 1




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    It can be in any shape/form. It's more Antman like if it's the same, but I am only looking for the size.
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    – Malkev
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  • $begingroup$
    Do you have a level requirement in mind?
    $endgroup$
    – Someone_Evil
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Someone_Evil 20.
    $endgroup$
    – Malkev
    3 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    Are you counting effects like Wild Shape and polymorph?
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    2 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Does the PC have to stay in the same shape (example: begins as a dwarf, must look like a dwarf from largest to smallest) or can the PC change forms?
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It can be in any shape/form. It's more Antman like if it's the same, but I am only looking for the size.
    $endgroup$
    – Malkev
    1 hour ago















$begingroup$
Do you have a level requirement in mind?
$endgroup$
– Someone_Evil
3 hours ago




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– Someone_Evil
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$begingroup$
@Someone_Evil 20.
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@Someone_Evil 20.
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– Malkev
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Does the PC have to stay in the same shape (example: begins as a dwarf, must look like a dwarf from largest to smallest) or can the PC change forms?
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– KorvinStarmast
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It can be in any shape/form. It's more Antman like if it's the same, but I am only looking for the size.
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As a Moon Druid: all of 'em from Tiny to Gargantuan



You can cover all the sizes, and do so utilizing your own statistics by being a Circle of the Moon druid.



This works by activating your wild shape, which provides that:




Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. You also retain all of your skill and saving throw proficiencies, in addition to gaining those of the creature. If the creature has the same proficiency as you and the bonus in its stat block is higher than yours, use the creature’s bonus instead of yours.




Unlike with polymorph, Wild Shape lets you be you...but in a different beast form.



Get Gargantuan



At 20th level, a moon druid can transform into up to a CR6 beast. The one to pick a CR5 Brontosaurus(nb: you will have to have seen one of these to do this), which is a gargantuan creature.



Get Tiny



You've got a lot more options here with your Wild Shape and can pretty much pick any from this list of tiny creatures.




Shapechange your way to it



The 9th level spell shapechange while at level 20 gives you full access to up to CR20 creatures, many of which cover Gargantuan and Tiny sizes.




You assume the form of a different creature for the duration. The new form can be of any creature with a challenge rating equal to your level or lower.







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    @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
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A Druid 17/Wizard 3 will give you a lot of options



The key spells/features are:



  • Shapechange: a 9-th level Druid spell which lets you change your shape to any creature, up to CR 20, as an action. (Concentration, 1 hour)


  • Enlarge/Reduce: a 2-nd level Wizard spell which lets you put your size up or down one category (Concentration, 1 minute)


  • Polymorph: a 4-th level spell on both spell lists (we would know it as a Druid spell though) which lets you take the form of any beast (Technically up to CR 20, but the list stops at 8). (Concentration, 1 hour)


  • Wild Shape: which gives you two uses to be a beast up to CR 5 (assuming circle of the Moon)


Notably these spells and features stack poorly, either requiring concentration or Wild Shape preventing you from casting spells while transformed, but this will provide you the opportunity to transform many times (up to 1 shapechange, 11 polymorphs, 6 enlarge/reduce per long rest and two Wild Shapes per short).



Having the legendary Staff of the Magi would add unlimited casting of Enlarge/Reduce. (Thanks NautArch)



What race you are doesn't matter much to this approach, but since you care about size you might want to be a Goblin for their Fury of the Small feature.






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    As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
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A range of Tiny to Gargantuan in two forms



To achieve this range, you will need the druid's level 18 Beast Spells feature and Combat Wild Shape, at least 1 level in sorcerer, warlock, or wizard, and a staff of the magi.



The two forms you will use are Giant Ape and Baboon (as these are the forms of appropriate size that have opposable thumbs).



  • Tiny through Medium.

    • This is achieved by the Baboon form which starts as small


    • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of tiny and medium.


  • Large through Gargantuan

    • This is achieved by the Giant Ape form which starts as huge


    • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of large and gargantuan.


Since enlarge/reduce requires no charges from the staff of the magi, you can switch sizes within the size ranges for each form as many times as you want within the maximum of 9 hours in Wild Shape. You can also switch size ranges once between short rests, making this character's size switching even more flexible.



For even more flexibility, you can also have access to...



  • Small through Large

    • This is achieved by any medium race in your normal druid form.


    • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of small and large.


Side note: As a high level druid, you would also have access to shapechange which offers a wide range of more powerful options for a short time in every size category






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    As a Moon Druid: all of 'em from Tiny to Gargantuan



    You can cover all the sizes, and do so utilizing your own statistics by being a Circle of the Moon druid.



    This works by activating your wild shape, which provides that:




    Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. You also retain all of your skill and saving throw proficiencies, in addition to gaining those of the creature. If the creature has the same proficiency as you and the bonus in its stat block is higher than yours, use the creature’s bonus instead of yours.




    Unlike with polymorph, Wild Shape lets you be you...but in a different beast form.



    Get Gargantuan



    At 20th level, a moon druid can transform into up to a CR6 beast. The one to pick a CR5 Brontosaurus(nb: you will have to have seen one of these to do this), which is a gargantuan creature.



    Get Tiny



    You've got a lot more options here with your Wild Shape and can pretty much pick any from this list of tiny creatures.




    Shapechange your way to it



    The 9th level spell shapechange while at level 20 gives you full access to up to CR20 creatures, many of which cover Gargantuan and Tiny sizes.




    You assume the form of a different creature for the duration. The new form can be of any creature with a challenge rating equal to your level or lower.







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      The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
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      @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
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    $begingroup$

    As a Moon Druid: all of 'em from Tiny to Gargantuan



    You can cover all the sizes, and do so utilizing your own statistics by being a Circle of the Moon druid.



    This works by activating your wild shape, which provides that:




    Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. You also retain all of your skill and saving throw proficiencies, in addition to gaining those of the creature. If the creature has the same proficiency as you and the bonus in its stat block is higher than yours, use the creature’s bonus instead of yours.




    Unlike with polymorph, Wild Shape lets you be you...but in a different beast form.



    Get Gargantuan



    At 20th level, a moon druid can transform into up to a CR6 beast. The one to pick a CR5 Brontosaurus(nb: you will have to have seen one of these to do this), which is a gargantuan creature.



    Get Tiny



    You've got a lot more options here with your Wild Shape and can pretty much pick any from this list of tiny creatures.




    Shapechange your way to it



    The 9th level spell shapechange while at level 20 gives you full access to up to CR20 creatures, many of which cover Gargantuan and Tiny sizes.




    You assume the form of a different creature for the duration. The new form can be of any creature with a challenge rating equal to your level or lower.







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      The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
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      – David Coffron
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      @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      48 mins ago













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    $begingroup$

    As a Moon Druid: all of 'em from Tiny to Gargantuan



    You can cover all the sizes, and do so utilizing your own statistics by being a Circle of the Moon druid.



    This works by activating your wild shape, which provides that:




    Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. You also retain all of your skill and saving throw proficiencies, in addition to gaining those of the creature. If the creature has the same proficiency as you and the bonus in its stat block is higher than yours, use the creature’s bonus instead of yours.




    Unlike with polymorph, Wild Shape lets you be you...but in a different beast form.



    Get Gargantuan



    At 20th level, a moon druid can transform into up to a CR6 beast. The one to pick a CR5 Brontosaurus(nb: you will have to have seen one of these to do this), which is a gargantuan creature.



    Get Tiny



    You've got a lot more options here with your Wild Shape and can pretty much pick any from this list of tiny creatures.




    Shapechange your way to it



    The 9th level spell shapechange while at level 20 gives you full access to up to CR20 creatures, many of which cover Gargantuan and Tiny sizes.




    You assume the form of a different creature for the duration. The new form can be of any creature with a challenge rating equal to your level or lower.







    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    As a Moon Druid: all of 'em from Tiny to Gargantuan



    You can cover all the sizes, and do so utilizing your own statistics by being a Circle of the Moon druid.



    This works by activating your wild shape, which provides that:




    Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast, but you retain your alignment, personality, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. You also retain all of your skill and saving throw proficiencies, in addition to gaining those of the creature. If the creature has the same proficiency as you and the bonus in its stat block is higher than yours, use the creature’s bonus instead of yours.




    Unlike with polymorph, Wild Shape lets you be you...but in a different beast form.



    Get Gargantuan



    At 20th level, a moon druid can transform into up to a CR6 beast. The one to pick a CR5 Brontosaurus(nb: you will have to have seen one of these to do this), which is a gargantuan creature.



    Get Tiny



    You've got a lot more options here with your Wild Shape and can pretty much pick any from this list of tiny creatures.




    Shapechange your way to it



    The 9th level spell shapechange while at level 20 gives you full access to up to CR20 creatures, many of which cover Gargantuan and Tiny sizes.




    You assume the form of a different creature for the duration. The new form can be of any creature with a challenge rating equal to your level or lower.








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    • $begingroup$
      The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
      $endgroup$
      – David Coffron
      49 mins ago










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      @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
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    • $begingroup$
      The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
      $endgroup$
      – David Coffron
      49 mins ago










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      @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      48 mins ago















    $begingroup$
    The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    49 mins ago




    $begingroup$
    The Brontosaurus already gives access to Gargantuan as long as you have 15 druid levels. It's found in Volo's Guide to Monsters
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    49 mins ago












    $begingroup$
    @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    48 mins ago




    $begingroup$
    @DavidCoffron Thank you! I started my search at CR6 and not 5 (thinking moar powerful moar better.)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    48 mins ago













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    A Druid 17/Wizard 3 will give you a lot of options



    The key spells/features are:



    • Shapechange: a 9-th level Druid spell which lets you change your shape to any creature, up to CR 20, as an action. (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Enlarge/Reduce: a 2-nd level Wizard spell which lets you put your size up or down one category (Concentration, 1 minute)


    • Polymorph: a 4-th level spell on both spell lists (we would know it as a Druid spell though) which lets you take the form of any beast (Technically up to CR 20, but the list stops at 8). (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Wild Shape: which gives you two uses to be a beast up to CR 5 (assuming circle of the Moon)


    Notably these spells and features stack poorly, either requiring concentration or Wild Shape preventing you from casting spells while transformed, but this will provide you the opportunity to transform many times (up to 1 shapechange, 11 polymorphs, 6 enlarge/reduce per long rest and two Wild Shapes per short).



    Having the legendary Staff of the Magi would add unlimited casting of Enlarge/Reduce. (Thanks NautArch)



    What race you are doesn't matter much to this approach, but since you care about size you might want to be a Goblin for their Fury of the Small feature.






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      As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
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    A Druid 17/Wizard 3 will give you a lot of options



    The key spells/features are:



    • Shapechange: a 9-th level Druid spell which lets you change your shape to any creature, up to CR 20, as an action. (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Enlarge/Reduce: a 2-nd level Wizard spell which lets you put your size up or down one category (Concentration, 1 minute)


    • Polymorph: a 4-th level spell on both spell lists (we would know it as a Druid spell though) which lets you take the form of any beast (Technically up to CR 20, but the list stops at 8). (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Wild Shape: which gives you two uses to be a beast up to CR 5 (assuming circle of the Moon)


    Notably these spells and features stack poorly, either requiring concentration or Wild Shape preventing you from casting spells while transformed, but this will provide you the opportunity to transform many times (up to 1 shapechange, 11 polymorphs, 6 enlarge/reduce per long rest and two Wild Shapes per short).



    Having the legendary Staff of the Magi would add unlimited casting of Enlarge/Reduce. (Thanks NautArch)



    What race you are doesn't matter much to this approach, but since you care about size you might want to be a Goblin for their Fury of the Small feature.






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      $begingroup$
      @NautArch I didn't intend for the spells to be stacked/ cast at the same time, but rather provide have more options so that you can change your size more often.
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      – Someone_Evil
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    • $begingroup$
      As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
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    A Druid 17/Wizard 3 will give you a lot of options



    The key spells/features are:



    • Shapechange: a 9-th level Druid spell which lets you change your shape to any creature, up to CR 20, as an action. (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Enlarge/Reduce: a 2-nd level Wizard spell which lets you put your size up or down one category (Concentration, 1 minute)


    • Polymorph: a 4-th level spell on both spell lists (we would know it as a Druid spell though) which lets you take the form of any beast (Technically up to CR 20, but the list stops at 8). (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Wild Shape: which gives you two uses to be a beast up to CR 5 (assuming circle of the Moon)


    Notably these spells and features stack poorly, either requiring concentration or Wild Shape preventing you from casting spells while transformed, but this will provide you the opportunity to transform many times (up to 1 shapechange, 11 polymorphs, 6 enlarge/reduce per long rest and two Wild Shapes per short).



    Having the legendary Staff of the Magi would add unlimited casting of Enlarge/Reduce. (Thanks NautArch)



    What race you are doesn't matter much to this approach, but since you care about size you might want to be a Goblin for their Fury of the Small feature.






    share|improve this answer











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    A Druid 17/Wizard 3 will give you a lot of options



    The key spells/features are:



    • Shapechange: a 9-th level Druid spell which lets you change your shape to any creature, up to CR 20, as an action. (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Enlarge/Reduce: a 2-nd level Wizard spell which lets you put your size up or down one category (Concentration, 1 minute)


    • Polymorph: a 4-th level spell on both spell lists (we would know it as a Druid spell though) which lets you take the form of any beast (Technically up to CR 20, but the list stops at 8). (Concentration, 1 hour)


    • Wild Shape: which gives you two uses to be a beast up to CR 5 (assuming circle of the Moon)


    Notably these spells and features stack poorly, either requiring concentration or Wild Shape preventing you from casting spells while transformed, but this will provide you the opportunity to transform many times (up to 1 shapechange, 11 polymorphs, 6 enlarge/reduce per long rest and two Wild Shapes per short).



    Having the legendary Staff of the Magi would add unlimited casting of Enlarge/Reduce. (Thanks NautArch)



    What race you are doesn't matter much to this approach, but since you care about size you might want to be a Goblin for their Fury of the Small feature.







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      $begingroup$
      @NautArch I didn't intend for the spells to be stacked/ cast at the same time, but rather provide have more options so that you can change your size more often.
      $endgroup$
      – Someone_Evil
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      1 hour ago












    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @NautArch I didn't intend for the spells to be stacked/ cast at the same time, but rather provide have more options so that you can change your size more often.
      $endgroup$
      – Someone_Evil
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      1 hour ago







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    1




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch I didn't intend for the spells to be stacked/ cast at the same time, but rather provide have more options so that you can change your size more often.
    $endgroup$
    – Someone_Evil
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch I didn't intend for the spells to be stacked/ cast at the same time, but rather provide have more options so that you can change your size more often.
    $endgroup$
    – Someone_Evil
    1 hour ago












    $begingroup$
    As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    As a wizard, you'd also have access to the Staff of the Magi which can cast enlarge/reduce. However, with this build you can't cast while in wild shape form because you're missing the 18 level druid feature.
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    1 hour ago











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    A range of Tiny to Gargantuan in two forms



    To achieve this range, you will need the druid's level 18 Beast Spells feature and Combat Wild Shape, at least 1 level in sorcerer, warlock, or wizard, and a staff of the magi.



    The two forms you will use are Giant Ape and Baboon (as these are the forms of appropriate size that have opposable thumbs).



    • Tiny through Medium.

      • This is achieved by the Baboon form which starts as small


      • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of tiny and medium.


    • Large through Gargantuan

      • This is achieved by the Giant Ape form which starts as huge


      • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of large and gargantuan.


    Since enlarge/reduce requires no charges from the staff of the magi, you can switch sizes within the size ranges for each form as many times as you want within the maximum of 9 hours in Wild Shape. You can also switch size ranges once between short rests, making this character's size switching even more flexible.



    For even more flexibility, you can also have access to...



    • Small through Large

      • This is achieved by any medium race in your normal druid form.


      • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of small and large.


    Side note: As a high level druid, you would also have access to shapechange which offers a wide range of more powerful options for a short time in every size category






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      $begingroup$

      A range of Tiny to Gargantuan in two forms



      To achieve this range, you will need the druid's level 18 Beast Spells feature and Combat Wild Shape, at least 1 level in sorcerer, warlock, or wizard, and a staff of the magi.



      The two forms you will use are Giant Ape and Baboon (as these are the forms of appropriate size that have opposable thumbs).



      • Tiny through Medium.

        • This is achieved by the Baboon form which starts as small


        • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of tiny and medium.


      • Large through Gargantuan

        • This is achieved by the Giant Ape form which starts as huge


        • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of large and gargantuan.


      Since enlarge/reduce requires no charges from the staff of the magi, you can switch sizes within the size ranges for each form as many times as you want within the maximum of 9 hours in Wild Shape. You can also switch size ranges once between short rests, making this character's size switching even more flexible.



      For even more flexibility, you can also have access to...



      • Small through Large

        • This is achieved by any medium race in your normal druid form.


        • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of small and large.


      Side note: As a high level druid, you would also have access to shapechange which offers a wide range of more powerful options for a short time in every size category






      share|improve this answer











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        $begingroup$

        A range of Tiny to Gargantuan in two forms



        To achieve this range, you will need the druid's level 18 Beast Spells feature and Combat Wild Shape, at least 1 level in sorcerer, warlock, or wizard, and a staff of the magi.



        The two forms you will use are Giant Ape and Baboon (as these are the forms of appropriate size that have opposable thumbs).



        • Tiny through Medium.

          • This is achieved by the Baboon form which starts as small


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of tiny and medium.


        • Large through Gargantuan

          • This is achieved by the Giant Ape form which starts as huge


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of large and gargantuan.


        Since enlarge/reduce requires no charges from the staff of the magi, you can switch sizes within the size ranges for each form as many times as you want within the maximum of 9 hours in Wild Shape. You can also switch size ranges once between short rests, making this character's size switching even more flexible.



        For even more flexibility, you can also have access to...



        • Small through Large

          • This is achieved by any medium race in your normal druid form.


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of small and large.


        Side note: As a high level druid, you would also have access to shapechange which offers a wide range of more powerful options for a short time in every size category






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        A range of Tiny to Gargantuan in two forms



        To achieve this range, you will need the druid's level 18 Beast Spells feature and Combat Wild Shape, at least 1 level in sorcerer, warlock, or wizard, and a staff of the magi.



        The two forms you will use are Giant Ape and Baboon (as these are the forms of appropriate size that have opposable thumbs).



        • Tiny through Medium.

          • This is achieved by the Baboon form which starts as small


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of tiny and medium.


        • Large through Gargantuan

          • This is achieved by the Giant Ape form which starts as huge


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of large and gargantuan.


        Since enlarge/reduce requires no charges from the staff of the magi, you can switch sizes within the size ranges for each form as many times as you want within the maximum of 9 hours in Wild Shape. You can also switch size ranges once between short rests, making this character's size switching even more flexible.



        For even more flexibility, you can also have access to...



        • Small through Large

          • This is achieved by any medium race in your normal druid form.


          • Enlarge/reduce cast at-will from the staff of the magi opens up the options of small and large.


        Side note: As a high level druid, you would also have access to shapechange which offers a wide range of more powerful options for a short time in every size category







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