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The idea is to build a cybernetic body for a human. Only the brain and a few glands related to emotions, like adrenal glands, will be kept. The brain and the glands will be in a closed, plug-and-play, container, that can be connected to compatible bodies, to turn humans into cybernetic space elves capable of living long enough to cross the void between the stars without relying on relativistic ships (assume for now that it is possible to keep the brain healthy for thousands of years with the correct chemistry).



But these bodies need power sources. Compact, energetic power sources. I'm thinking fission reactors.



Is it possible to build a fission reactor so small that can be possible to fit it in a human chest cavity? Would such a miniaturized reactor be better, in terms of power output and autonomy, then a combustion engine or batteries?










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    How much do you care about radiation shielding?
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    Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
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    This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
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    This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
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The idea is to build a cybernetic body for a human. Only the brain and a few glands related to emotions, like adrenal glands, will be kept. The brain and the glands will be in a closed, plug-and-play, container, that can be connected to compatible bodies, to turn humans into cybernetic space elves capable of living long enough to cross the void between the stars without relying on relativistic ships (assume for now that it is possible to keep the brain healthy for thousands of years with the correct chemistry).



But these bodies need power sources. Compact, energetic power sources. I'm thinking fission reactors.



Is it possible to build a fission reactor so small that can be possible to fit it in a human chest cavity? Would such a miniaturized reactor be better, in terms of power output and autonomy, then a combustion engine or batteries?










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    How much do you care about radiation shielding?
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    – Philipp
    3 hours ago










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    Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
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    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
    $endgroup$
    – Willk
    2 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    28 mins ago














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The idea is to build a cybernetic body for a human. Only the brain and a few glands related to emotions, like adrenal glands, will be kept. The brain and the glands will be in a closed, plug-and-play, container, that can be connected to compatible bodies, to turn humans into cybernetic space elves capable of living long enough to cross the void between the stars without relying on relativistic ships (assume for now that it is possible to keep the brain healthy for thousands of years with the correct chemistry).



But these bodies need power sources. Compact, energetic power sources. I'm thinking fission reactors.



Is it possible to build a fission reactor so small that can be possible to fit it in a human chest cavity? Would such a miniaturized reactor be better, in terms of power output and autonomy, then a combustion engine or batteries?










share|improve this question











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The idea is to build a cybernetic body for a human. Only the brain and a few glands related to emotions, like adrenal glands, will be kept. The brain and the glands will be in a closed, plug-and-play, container, that can be connected to compatible bodies, to turn humans into cybernetic space elves capable of living long enough to cross the void between the stars without relying on relativistic ships (assume for now that it is possible to keep the brain healthy for thousands of years with the correct chemistry).



But these bodies need power sources. Compact, energetic power sources. I'm thinking fission reactors.



Is it possible to build a fission reactor so small that can be possible to fit it in a human chest cavity? Would such a miniaturized reactor be better, in terms of power output and autonomy, then a combustion engine or batteries?







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    How much do you care about radiation shielding?
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    – Philipp
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    Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
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  • $begingroup$
    This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
    $endgroup$
    – Willk
    2 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    28 mins ago

















  • $begingroup$
    How much do you care about radiation shielding?
    $endgroup$
    – Philipp
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
    $endgroup$
    – Willk
    2 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
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    – JBH
    28 mins ago
















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How much do you care about radiation shielding?
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– Philipp
3 hours ago




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How much do you care about radiation shielding?
$endgroup$
– Philipp
3 hours ago












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Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago





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Only enough to not damage the brains and the circuitry of the other systems. In the case of the brains, the brain case can have it's own shielding. It is acceptable to have less shielding in areas that aren't facing the brain, for example.
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago













$begingroup$
This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
$endgroup$
– Willk
2 hours ago





$begingroup$
This idea of the fantastic cyborg power core is integral to the Iron Man movies. Iron Man has got one wedged in his non-iron parts. ironman.fandom.com/wiki/Arc_Reactor
$endgroup$
– Willk
2 hours ago













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This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago





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This idea was made popular by Isaac Asimov in his Foundation stories where they evolved into something the size of our button lithium batteries.
$endgroup$
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Fission reactions (as opposed to reactors) is already how we power deep space probes, it should work for cyborgs in space.



A type of radioisotopic power system known as radioisotope thermoelectric generators employ radioactive materials such as plutonium-238 to produce heat and make use of a principle of electrics known as the Seebeck effect to produce power.
Put simply, the Seebeck effect is when two different semi-conductive metals are connected. With one end heated, electrons will move from the hotter metal to the colder one.



https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/where-do-deep-space-probes-get-their-power-from



Advantages: It works, basically forever. If it's not enough power then just have more of them.



Disadvantages: You're producing heat and then harvesting it, so it's bigger than "fitting inside of a human chest".



However for cyborgs in space there's no need to keep your power source next to your brain. The ship has a power source, we can ship electricity to various places real easy, a cyborg can have a power cable for most situations and batteries for when it has to be disconnected.






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    So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
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    @Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
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    You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
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Fission power requires critical mass to work, making it difficult to miniaturize power plants, even ignoring problems with radiation and radioactive waste. Californium-252 has the smallest critical mass of 2.73 kg, but it is expensive to synthesize. In addition, fission doesn't produce electricity directly, but instead evaporate water that produces electricity in turbines, adding to the weight of the power plant. Did I mention shielding? Cutting gamma radiation in half requires 1 cm of lead, and reducing it to (say) less than two percent will thus require 6 cm lead shielding, which quickly becomes very heavy.



An alternative might be fusion power, which has no critical mass. In return, however, fusion requires very high pressure and temperature, which might be difficult to contain in a small reactor. The smallest experimental reactors being build are the size of small houses. You would probably need fusion processes that don't emit free neutrons, which make stuff radioactive and are difficult to shield. Examples are deuterium-lithium and proton-boron processes, but these typically require greater pressure and temperature than neutronic processes. They also tend to require steam turbines to produce electricity. A theoretical exception is 'focus fusion', which produces electricity directly. This might be your best bet.






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    If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
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    About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
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    @Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
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Stick with chemical engines.



In a cyborg you have a whole body cavity to work with. The fact that is is a cyborg means to me that it will be in human-type circumstances; the only reason I can think of for a robot to emulate the human form. Human circumstances means there will probably be opportunities to eat and to breathe.



I propose that you put an internal combustion engine in there at the site of the heart. "Breathing" will provide the oxygen and also a mechanism to vent heat. The cyborg can eat fuel. Cyborg fuel might be kerosene or even rocket fuel; a cyborg in circumstances where it is unable to breathe might eat rocket fuel with oxidizer included. Other combustibles might include butter, chicken, or rum (carried in a hip flask for emergencies). RPMs of the engine will increase as dictated by caloric value of food and energy needs.



The exhalations of the cyborg will depend on what fuel it is currently running on. There might be a lot of smoke, or sometimes even flames.






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    Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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Fission reactions (as opposed to reactors) is already how we power deep space probes, it should work for cyborgs in space.



A type of radioisotopic power system known as radioisotope thermoelectric generators employ radioactive materials such as plutonium-238 to produce heat and make use of a principle of electrics known as the Seebeck effect to produce power.
Put simply, the Seebeck effect is when two different semi-conductive metals are connected. With one end heated, electrons will move from the hotter metal to the colder one.



https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/where-do-deep-space-probes-get-their-power-from



Advantages: It works, basically forever. If it's not enough power then just have more of them.



Disadvantages: You're producing heat and then harvesting it, so it's bigger than "fitting inside of a human chest".



However for cyborgs in space there's no need to keep your power source next to your brain. The ship has a power source, we can ship electricity to various places real easy, a cyborg can have a power cable for most situations and batteries for when it has to be disconnected.






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    So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
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    – Geronimo
    1 hour ago






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    @Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
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    – Dark Matter
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    You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
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    – John Dvorak
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Fission reactions (as opposed to reactors) is already how we power deep space probes, it should work for cyborgs in space.



A type of radioisotopic power system known as radioisotope thermoelectric generators employ radioactive materials such as plutonium-238 to produce heat and make use of a principle of electrics known as the Seebeck effect to produce power.
Put simply, the Seebeck effect is when two different semi-conductive metals are connected. With one end heated, electrons will move from the hotter metal to the colder one.



https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/where-do-deep-space-probes-get-their-power-from



Advantages: It works, basically forever. If it's not enough power then just have more of them.



Disadvantages: You're producing heat and then harvesting it, so it's bigger than "fitting inside of a human chest".



However for cyborgs in space there's no need to keep your power source next to your brain. The ship has a power source, we can ship electricity to various places real easy, a cyborg can have a power cable for most situations and batteries for when it has to be disconnected.






share|improve this answer











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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
    $endgroup$
    – Dark Matter
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
    $endgroup$
    – John Dvorak
    1 hour ago














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Fission reactions (as opposed to reactors) is already how we power deep space probes, it should work for cyborgs in space.



A type of radioisotopic power system known as radioisotope thermoelectric generators employ radioactive materials such as plutonium-238 to produce heat and make use of a principle of electrics known as the Seebeck effect to produce power.
Put simply, the Seebeck effect is when two different semi-conductive metals are connected. With one end heated, electrons will move from the hotter metal to the colder one.



https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/where-do-deep-space-probes-get-their-power-from



Advantages: It works, basically forever. If it's not enough power then just have more of them.



Disadvantages: You're producing heat and then harvesting it, so it's bigger than "fitting inside of a human chest".



However for cyborgs in space there's no need to keep your power source next to your brain. The ship has a power source, we can ship electricity to various places real easy, a cyborg can have a power cable for most situations and batteries for when it has to be disconnected.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Fission reactions (as opposed to reactors) is already how we power deep space probes, it should work for cyborgs in space.



A type of radioisotopic power system known as radioisotope thermoelectric generators employ radioactive materials such as plutonium-238 to produce heat and make use of a principle of electrics known as the Seebeck effect to produce power.
Put simply, the Seebeck effect is when two different semi-conductive metals are connected. With one end heated, electrons will move from the hotter metal to the colder one.



https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/where-do-deep-space-probes-get-their-power-from



Advantages: It works, basically forever. If it's not enough power then just have more of them.



Disadvantages: You're producing heat and then harvesting it, so it's bigger than "fitting inside of a human chest".



However for cyborgs in space there's no need to keep your power source next to your brain. The ship has a power source, we can ship electricity to various places real easy, a cyborg can have a power cable for most situations and batteries for when it has to be disconnected.







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    So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    1 hour ago






  • 1




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    @Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
    $endgroup$
    – Dark Matter
    1 hour ago










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    You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
    $endgroup$
    – John Dvorak
    1 hour ago













  • 1




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    So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    1 hour ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
    $endgroup$
    – Dark Matter
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
    $endgroup$
    – John Dvorak
    1 hour ago








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So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
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So autonomy will have to be sacrificed because the batteries won't have the autonomy a nuclear reactor embedded on the body would have, even taking into account the linear growth of battery capacity and increasing eletrical and motor efficiency. But this compromise may be acceptable if the battery is good enough and the body efficient enough. Recharge at the ship's power sockets, bring extra batteries when doing long missions or install a temporary generator when settling somewhere for some time. That generator may exploit the best power sources the place has, like oil if installed in Titan.
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@Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
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– Dark Matter
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@Geronimo Yes, all of that. For a cyborg, power is food. But we don't need to carry around 80+ years of food in a backpack, it's acceptable if we've got a separate vehicle which holds the bulk of what we need.
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You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
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– John Dvorak
1 hour ago





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You could use wireless power transmission for your androids. Laser beams (less penetration through ship walls, but has plot potential), microwave laser beams, big loops of wire...
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– John Dvorak
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Fission power requires critical mass to work, making it difficult to miniaturize power plants, even ignoring problems with radiation and radioactive waste. Californium-252 has the smallest critical mass of 2.73 kg, but it is expensive to synthesize. In addition, fission doesn't produce electricity directly, but instead evaporate water that produces electricity in turbines, adding to the weight of the power plant. Did I mention shielding? Cutting gamma radiation in half requires 1 cm of lead, and reducing it to (say) less than two percent will thus require 6 cm lead shielding, which quickly becomes very heavy.



An alternative might be fusion power, which has no critical mass. In return, however, fusion requires very high pressure and temperature, which might be difficult to contain in a small reactor. The smallest experimental reactors being build are the size of small houses. You would probably need fusion processes that don't emit free neutrons, which make stuff radioactive and are difficult to shield. Examples are deuterium-lithium and proton-boron processes, but these typically require greater pressure and temperature than neutronic processes. They also tend to require steam turbines to produce electricity. A theoretical exception is 'focus fusion', which produces electricity directly. This might be your best bet.






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    If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
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    – Geronimo
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    About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
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    – Geronimo
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    @Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
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    – Nuclear Wang
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$begingroup$

Fission power requires critical mass to work, making it difficult to miniaturize power plants, even ignoring problems with radiation and radioactive waste. Californium-252 has the smallest critical mass of 2.73 kg, but it is expensive to synthesize. In addition, fission doesn't produce electricity directly, but instead evaporate water that produces electricity in turbines, adding to the weight of the power plant. Did I mention shielding? Cutting gamma radiation in half requires 1 cm of lead, and reducing it to (say) less than two percent will thus require 6 cm lead shielding, which quickly becomes very heavy.



An alternative might be fusion power, which has no critical mass. In return, however, fusion requires very high pressure and temperature, which might be difficult to contain in a small reactor. The smallest experimental reactors being build are the size of small houses. You would probably need fusion processes that don't emit free neutrons, which make stuff radioactive and are difficult to shield. Examples are deuterium-lithium and proton-boron processes, but these typically require greater pressure and temperature than neutronic processes. They also tend to require steam turbines to produce electricity. A theoretical exception is 'focus fusion', which produces electricity directly. This might be your best bet.






share|improve this answer









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  • $begingroup$
    If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
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    – Nuclear Wang
    3 hours ago













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$begingroup$

Fission power requires critical mass to work, making it difficult to miniaturize power plants, even ignoring problems with radiation and radioactive waste. Californium-252 has the smallest critical mass of 2.73 kg, but it is expensive to synthesize. In addition, fission doesn't produce electricity directly, but instead evaporate water that produces electricity in turbines, adding to the weight of the power plant. Did I mention shielding? Cutting gamma radiation in half requires 1 cm of lead, and reducing it to (say) less than two percent will thus require 6 cm lead shielding, which quickly becomes very heavy.



An alternative might be fusion power, which has no critical mass. In return, however, fusion requires very high pressure and temperature, which might be difficult to contain in a small reactor. The smallest experimental reactors being build are the size of small houses. You would probably need fusion processes that don't emit free neutrons, which make stuff radioactive and are difficult to shield. Examples are deuterium-lithium and proton-boron processes, but these typically require greater pressure and temperature than neutronic processes. They also tend to require steam turbines to produce electricity. A theoretical exception is 'focus fusion', which produces electricity directly. This might be your best bet.






share|improve this answer









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Fission power requires critical mass to work, making it difficult to miniaturize power plants, even ignoring problems with radiation and radioactive waste. Californium-252 has the smallest critical mass of 2.73 kg, but it is expensive to synthesize. In addition, fission doesn't produce electricity directly, but instead evaporate water that produces electricity in turbines, adding to the weight of the power plant. Did I mention shielding? Cutting gamma radiation in half requires 1 cm of lead, and reducing it to (say) less than two percent will thus require 6 cm lead shielding, which quickly becomes very heavy.



An alternative might be fusion power, which has no critical mass. In return, however, fusion requires very high pressure and temperature, which might be difficult to contain in a small reactor. The smallest experimental reactors being build are the size of small houses. You would probably need fusion processes that don't emit free neutrons, which make stuff radioactive and are difficult to shield. Examples are deuterium-lithium and proton-boron processes, but these typically require greater pressure and temperature than neutronic processes. They also tend to require steam turbines to produce electricity. A theoretical exception is 'focus fusion', which produces electricity directly. This might be your best bet.







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Klaus Æ. MogensenKlaus Æ. Mogensen

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  • $begingroup$
    If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
    $endgroup$
    – Nuclear Wang
    3 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    3 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
    $endgroup$
    – Nuclear Wang
    3 hours ago















$begingroup$
If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
If I understand correctly the critical mass is due to the amount of neutrons that, after leaving a fracturing atom, successfully ignites fission in another atom. Won't materials that reflect neutrons increase the amount of fission events, lowering the mass thresholds, while at the same time shielding the rest of the body from dangerous neutrons?
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago












$begingroup$
About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago





$begingroup$
About the gamma radiation: If use materials denser then lead the thickness of the shielding lowers. But the mass will still be a problem and i'm beginning to see that this a variant of the tyranny of the rocket equation - the "hotter" the reactor, the heavier the shielding, demanding even more power to move the cyborg and even more shielding.
$endgroup$
– Geronimo
3 hours ago





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$begingroup$
@Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
$endgroup$
– Nuclear Wang
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Geronimo You are correct that neutron reflectors allow for a lower critical mass/size and add shielding to the core, but good reflector materials are also very dense, so the mass savings may not be huge.
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– Nuclear Wang
3 hours ago











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Stick with chemical engines.



In a cyborg you have a whole body cavity to work with. The fact that is is a cyborg means to me that it will be in human-type circumstances; the only reason I can think of for a robot to emulate the human form. Human circumstances means there will probably be opportunities to eat and to breathe.



I propose that you put an internal combustion engine in there at the site of the heart. "Breathing" will provide the oxygen and also a mechanism to vent heat. The cyborg can eat fuel. Cyborg fuel might be kerosene or even rocket fuel; a cyborg in circumstances where it is unable to breathe might eat rocket fuel with oxidizer included. Other combustibles might include butter, chicken, or rum (carried in a hip flask for emergencies). RPMs of the engine will increase as dictated by caloric value of food and energy needs.



The exhalations of the cyborg will depend on what fuel it is currently running on. There might be a lot of smoke, or sometimes even flames.






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    Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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    – Geronimo
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$begingroup$

Stick with chemical engines.



In a cyborg you have a whole body cavity to work with. The fact that is is a cyborg means to me that it will be in human-type circumstances; the only reason I can think of for a robot to emulate the human form. Human circumstances means there will probably be opportunities to eat and to breathe.



I propose that you put an internal combustion engine in there at the site of the heart. "Breathing" will provide the oxygen and also a mechanism to vent heat. The cyborg can eat fuel. Cyborg fuel might be kerosene or even rocket fuel; a cyborg in circumstances where it is unable to breathe might eat rocket fuel with oxidizer included. Other combustibles might include butter, chicken, or rum (carried in a hip flask for emergencies). RPMs of the engine will increase as dictated by caloric value of food and energy needs.



The exhalations of the cyborg will depend on what fuel it is currently running on. There might be a lot of smoke, or sometimes even flames.






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  • $begingroup$
    Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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    – Geronimo
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$begingroup$

Stick with chemical engines.



In a cyborg you have a whole body cavity to work with. The fact that is is a cyborg means to me that it will be in human-type circumstances; the only reason I can think of for a robot to emulate the human form. Human circumstances means there will probably be opportunities to eat and to breathe.



I propose that you put an internal combustion engine in there at the site of the heart. "Breathing" will provide the oxygen and also a mechanism to vent heat. The cyborg can eat fuel. Cyborg fuel might be kerosene or even rocket fuel; a cyborg in circumstances where it is unable to breathe might eat rocket fuel with oxidizer included. Other combustibles might include butter, chicken, or rum (carried in a hip flask for emergencies). RPMs of the engine will increase as dictated by caloric value of food and energy needs.



The exhalations of the cyborg will depend on what fuel it is currently running on. There might be a lot of smoke, or sometimes even flames.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



Stick with chemical engines.



In a cyborg you have a whole body cavity to work with. The fact that is is a cyborg means to me that it will be in human-type circumstances; the only reason I can think of for a robot to emulate the human form. Human circumstances means there will probably be opportunities to eat and to breathe.



I propose that you put an internal combustion engine in there at the site of the heart. "Breathing" will provide the oxygen and also a mechanism to vent heat. The cyborg can eat fuel. Cyborg fuel might be kerosene or even rocket fuel; a cyborg in circumstances where it is unable to breathe might eat rocket fuel with oxidizer included. Other combustibles might include butter, chicken, or rum (carried in a hip flask for emergencies). RPMs of the engine will increase as dictated by caloric value of food and energy needs.



The exhalations of the cyborg will depend on what fuel it is currently running on. There might be a lot of smoke, or sometimes even flames.







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answered 22 mins ago









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  • $begingroup$
    Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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    – Geronimo
    6 mins ago
















  • $begingroup$
    Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
    $endgroup$
    – Geronimo
    6 mins ago















$begingroup$
Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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– Geronimo
6 mins ago




$begingroup$
Yes, they will be in human-type circunstances. The second reason to preserve the human form is psychological. They are stil humans and will probably have a "larval" stage, from birth to adulthood, in full flesh bodies, being cyborgfied when they become old enough, probably between 30 and 40 years old. But one problem that chemical engines might have is that we may soon reach the limits of power generation they can have, while batteries keep getting better linearly with occasional exponential jumps and nuclear is inherently more powerful.
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