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What steps are necessary to read a Modern SSD in Medieval Europe?
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowHow long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch?I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?A modern Manhattan city planner in New AmsterdamHow to Design a Plague that Causes Insanity?When transported suddenly to ancient Persia - how to quickly show that I am from the future?Medieval Europe With Modern Logistical Industrial ConceptsHow to search and rescue missing person in the late Cretaceous?What is the buoyancy limit for swimming?Scientifically feasible radical time differential between Sol and another star systemAlternate History: A European Empire in the Middle Ages - FeasibilityWith future knowledge, can I prevent the Columbian Exchange epidemics?What can a bunch of American kids teach ancient Egyptians?
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So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.
Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.
They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?
Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.
reality-check alternate-history time-travel
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ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
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So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.
Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.
They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?
Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.
reality-check alternate-history time-travel
asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
495
$endgroup$
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I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
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– MarielS
59 mins ago
1
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The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
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– user535733
30 mins ago
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If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
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– AlexP
17 mins ago
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The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
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– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.
Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.
They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?
Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.
reality-check alternate-history time-travel
asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
495
$endgroup$
So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.
Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.
They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?
Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.
reality-check alternate-history time-travel
reality-check alternate-history time-travel
asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
495
asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
495
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ChaosCenturian
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ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
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asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
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asked 1 hour ago
ChaosCenturianChaosCenturian
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495
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I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
59 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
$endgroup$
– user535733
30 mins ago
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If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
17 mins ago
$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
59 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
$endgroup$
– user535733
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
17 mins ago
$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago
$begingroup$
I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
59 mins ago
$begingroup$
I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
59 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
$endgroup$
– user535733
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
$endgroup$
– user535733
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
17 mins ago
$begingroup$
If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
17 mins ago
$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago
$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago
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If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .
If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.
If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:
I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?
How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?
Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
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I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
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– JBH
28 mins ago
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Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
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– JBH
27 mins ago
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If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .
If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.
If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:
I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?
How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?
Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .
If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.
If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:
I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?
How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?
Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
$endgroup$
2
$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .
If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.
If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:
I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?
How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?
Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
$endgroup$
If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .
If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.
If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:
I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?
How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?
Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
answered 1 hour ago
abestrangeabestrange
953210
953210
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$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
2
2
$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
$endgroup$
– JBH
28 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
$endgroup$
– JBH
27 mins ago
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I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
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– MarielS
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The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
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– user535733
30 mins ago
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If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
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– AlexP
17 mins ago
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The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
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– ChaosCenturian
2 mins ago