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Why LyX specific posts on tex.stackexchange.com are often been ignored?
First FAQ section: What kind of questions can I ask here?Is LyX an editor which should be recommended?About the possibility to save the “answer” in pdf formatWhy is short and specific questions required as stated in FAQ?Should 'how to install package X on Ubuntu' questions be consolidated?Speaking of LaTeX editorsFlagging obviously wrong answers?Adding the “accepted” mark to a question or to a commentLyX Specific PostsIs a question on setting up a CTAN mirror on-topic?
LyX specific posts on tex.stackexchange.com are not really been answered so often as a post that is specific to a real LaTeX editor (non WYSIWYG) or even most if the post is not specific to an editor but to LaTeX
distros or to LaTeX
(The Last case is the best in order of the possibility to get an answer).
The situation is almost like questions about installing Kali Linux in unix.stackexchange.com ... (And I mean that you have much less possibilities to get an answer when the question is not just tagged as LyX question, but when it is real LyX specific.
PS: Of course I can understand why, and I am tending to answer myself since I didn't found such a question here.
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LyX specific posts on tex.stackexchange.com are not really been answered so often as a post that is specific to a real LaTeX editor (non WYSIWYG) or even most if the post is not specific to an editor but to LaTeX
distros or to LaTeX
(The Last case is the best in order of the possibility to get an answer).
The situation is almost like questions about installing Kali Linux in unix.stackexchange.com ... (And I mean that you have much less possibilities to get an answer when the question is not just tagged as LyX question, but when it is real LyX specific.
PS: Of course I can understand why, and I am tending to answer myself since I didn't found such a question here.
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If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago
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LyX specific posts on tex.stackexchange.com are not really been answered so often as a post that is specific to a real LaTeX editor (non WYSIWYG) or even most if the post is not specific to an editor but to LaTeX
distros or to LaTeX
(The Last case is the best in order of the possibility to get an answer).
The situation is almost like questions about installing Kali Linux in unix.stackexchange.com ... (And I mean that you have much less possibilities to get an answer when the question is not just tagged as LyX question, but when it is real LyX specific.
PS: Of course I can understand why, and I am tending to answer myself since I didn't found such a question here.
discussion
LyX specific posts on tex.stackexchange.com are not really been answered so often as a post that is specific to a real LaTeX editor (non WYSIWYG) or even most if the post is not specific to an editor but to LaTeX
distros or to LaTeX
(The Last case is the best in order of the possibility to get an answer).
The situation is almost like questions about installing Kali Linux in unix.stackexchange.com ... (And I mean that you have much less possibilities to get an answer when the question is not just tagged as LyX question, but when it is real LyX specific.
PS: Of course I can understand why, and I am tending to answer myself since I didn't found such a question here.
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If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago
add a comment |
If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago
If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago
If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago
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3 Answers
3
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oldest
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LaTeX
is a typesetting system that (initially) was designed to give a nice layout (ready to be printed and to be published) without the creator of the document need to take special care about the output during his work. It supposed to make its own calculations by the internal compiling procedure and give an already beautiful result (but of course adjustable with many ways).
As such a system, the "WYSIWYG" approach seems to be completely inappropriate for it. The result after the compilation should be better that "what you see".
LyX is an approach of
LaTeX
typesetting that is preferred mostly by newcomers toLaTeX
world. Mostly from people that can't (or don't want) get over the "Office" habit and in most cases they want to "force" their document to "look like LaTeX" but without the "real coding part" of creating a LaTeX document.Any
LaTeX
user that will useLaTeX
more than once or twice will expect to have something more specific than the defaultLyX
abilities by pressing buttons, and will possibly come here to get an answer on how to accomplish this specific layout or behavior etc. So, theLyX
user will have to use the non-graphical interface ofLyX
to add some real code hopping that theLyX
will afford this code and will result a document behavior like if this code had been added to a "real"LaTeX
document. (But as far as I have seen here... this is not always the case).
In any result of the above situation, surely (s)he will need again and again such a help and thus will be driven to learn at least some basic LaTeX
commands in order to not make again and again the same question with just another variable/command/whatever. But then, by gaining soem basic skills in real LaTeX
coding and getting to know how more abilities LaTeX
"coding-approach" is offering, (s)he getting over the bad habit of the WYSIWYG approach and becoming a LaTeX
user from a LyX
user.
So, there are not really many people here familiar with LyX
that are able to help in questions specific to LyX
and in most cases their answer is a general LaTeX
answer by using the "code-mode" of LyX
and the hope that it should/could work.
If the question is LyX
specific, there are people that could help, but they possibly didn't needed much from tex.stackexchange.com and they are not active here, or they have already forgot the LyX
interface as "ex-LyX
" users
add a comment |
I know there are stats and there are statistics but just doing a very simple query on editor tags and I do agree wholeheartedly that it is not a fair test since it is skewed to comparing the IDE tags not the TeX methodology of the OP
[lyx]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=newest&pageSize=50
returns 2,467 questions
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 gives 285 questions
[texmaker]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=newest&pageSize=50 shows 1170
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 shows 245
Without looking deeper, that on its own would suggest LyX gets a better answer ratio approx. double that of Texmaker. However if we count in RECENT 50 for each it is 28/50 unanswered LyX versus 23/50 unanswered Texmaker suggesting that one might observe a more recent decline in LyX answers
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Apart from the question raised by KJO whether the data really substantiates the claim that Lyx is being often ignored, I would not be too surprised if Lyx questions tend to be less answered than questions other topics. The reason could be as simple as the fact that among the more expert users, i.e. the users that tend to answer the majority of questions, not too many are using Lyx. This is clearly speculative, but I have a hard time imagining that @egreg or David Carlisle, say, use Lyx to prepare their documents.
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
LaTeX
is a typesetting system that (initially) was designed to give a nice layout (ready to be printed and to be published) without the creator of the document need to take special care about the output during his work. It supposed to make its own calculations by the internal compiling procedure and give an already beautiful result (but of course adjustable with many ways).
As such a system, the "WYSIWYG" approach seems to be completely inappropriate for it. The result after the compilation should be better that "what you see".
LyX is an approach of
LaTeX
typesetting that is preferred mostly by newcomers toLaTeX
world. Mostly from people that can't (or don't want) get over the "Office" habit and in most cases they want to "force" their document to "look like LaTeX" but without the "real coding part" of creating a LaTeX document.Any
LaTeX
user that will useLaTeX
more than once or twice will expect to have something more specific than the defaultLyX
abilities by pressing buttons, and will possibly come here to get an answer on how to accomplish this specific layout or behavior etc. So, theLyX
user will have to use the non-graphical interface ofLyX
to add some real code hopping that theLyX
will afford this code and will result a document behavior like if this code had been added to a "real"LaTeX
document. (But as far as I have seen here... this is not always the case).
In any result of the above situation, surely (s)he will need again and again such a help and thus will be driven to learn at least some basic LaTeX
commands in order to not make again and again the same question with just another variable/command/whatever. But then, by gaining soem basic skills in real LaTeX
coding and getting to know how more abilities LaTeX
"coding-approach" is offering, (s)he getting over the bad habit of the WYSIWYG approach and becoming a LaTeX
user from a LyX
user.
So, there are not really many people here familiar with LyX
that are able to help in questions specific to LyX
and in most cases their answer is a general LaTeX
answer by using the "code-mode" of LyX
and the hope that it should/could work.
If the question is LyX
specific, there are people that could help, but they possibly didn't needed much from tex.stackexchange.com and they are not active here, or they have already forgot the LyX
interface as "ex-LyX
" users
add a comment |
LaTeX
is a typesetting system that (initially) was designed to give a nice layout (ready to be printed and to be published) without the creator of the document need to take special care about the output during his work. It supposed to make its own calculations by the internal compiling procedure and give an already beautiful result (but of course adjustable with many ways).
As such a system, the "WYSIWYG" approach seems to be completely inappropriate for it. The result after the compilation should be better that "what you see".
LyX is an approach of
LaTeX
typesetting that is preferred mostly by newcomers toLaTeX
world. Mostly from people that can't (or don't want) get over the "Office" habit and in most cases they want to "force" their document to "look like LaTeX" but without the "real coding part" of creating a LaTeX document.Any
LaTeX
user that will useLaTeX
more than once or twice will expect to have something more specific than the defaultLyX
abilities by pressing buttons, and will possibly come here to get an answer on how to accomplish this specific layout or behavior etc. So, theLyX
user will have to use the non-graphical interface ofLyX
to add some real code hopping that theLyX
will afford this code and will result a document behavior like if this code had been added to a "real"LaTeX
document. (But as far as I have seen here... this is not always the case).
In any result of the above situation, surely (s)he will need again and again such a help and thus will be driven to learn at least some basic LaTeX
commands in order to not make again and again the same question with just another variable/command/whatever. But then, by gaining soem basic skills in real LaTeX
coding and getting to know how more abilities LaTeX
"coding-approach" is offering, (s)he getting over the bad habit of the WYSIWYG approach and becoming a LaTeX
user from a LyX
user.
So, there are not really many people here familiar with LyX
that are able to help in questions specific to LyX
and in most cases their answer is a general LaTeX
answer by using the "code-mode" of LyX
and the hope that it should/could work.
If the question is LyX
specific, there are people that could help, but they possibly didn't needed much from tex.stackexchange.com and they are not active here, or they have already forgot the LyX
interface as "ex-LyX
" users
add a comment |
LaTeX
is a typesetting system that (initially) was designed to give a nice layout (ready to be printed and to be published) without the creator of the document need to take special care about the output during his work. It supposed to make its own calculations by the internal compiling procedure and give an already beautiful result (but of course adjustable with many ways).
As such a system, the "WYSIWYG" approach seems to be completely inappropriate for it. The result after the compilation should be better that "what you see".
LyX is an approach of
LaTeX
typesetting that is preferred mostly by newcomers toLaTeX
world. Mostly from people that can't (or don't want) get over the "Office" habit and in most cases they want to "force" their document to "look like LaTeX" but without the "real coding part" of creating a LaTeX document.Any
LaTeX
user that will useLaTeX
more than once or twice will expect to have something more specific than the defaultLyX
abilities by pressing buttons, and will possibly come here to get an answer on how to accomplish this specific layout or behavior etc. So, theLyX
user will have to use the non-graphical interface ofLyX
to add some real code hopping that theLyX
will afford this code and will result a document behavior like if this code had been added to a "real"LaTeX
document. (But as far as I have seen here... this is not always the case).
In any result of the above situation, surely (s)he will need again and again such a help and thus will be driven to learn at least some basic LaTeX
commands in order to not make again and again the same question with just another variable/command/whatever. But then, by gaining soem basic skills in real LaTeX
coding and getting to know how more abilities LaTeX
"coding-approach" is offering, (s)he getting over the bad habit of the WYSIWYG approach and becoming a LaTeX
user from a LyX
user.
So, there are not really many people here familiar with LyX
that are able to help in questions specific to LyX
and in most cases their answer is a general LaTeX
answer by using the "code-mode" of LyX
and the hope that it should/could work.
If the question is LyX
specific, there are people that could help, but they possibly didn't needed much from tex.stackexchange.com and they are not active here, or they have already forgot the LyX
interface as "ex-LyX
" users
LaTeX
is a typesetting system that (initially) was designed to give a nice layout (ready to be printed and to be published) without the creator of the document need to take special care about the output during his work. It supposed to make its own calculations by the internal compiling procedure and give an already beautiful result (but of course adjustable with many ways).
As such a system, the "WYSIWYG" approach seems to be completely inappropriate for it. The result after the compilation should be better that "what you see".
LyX is an approach of
LaTeX
typesetting that is preferred mostly by newcomers toLaTeX
world. Mostly from people that can't (or don't want) get over the "Office" habit and in most cases they want to "force" their document to "look like LaTeX" but without the "real coding part" of creating a LaTeX document.Any
LaTeX
user that will useLaTeX
more than once or twice will expect to have something more specific than the defaultLyX
abilities by pressing buttons, and will possibly come here to get an answer on how to accomplish this specific layout or behavior etc. So, theLyX
user will have to use the non-graphical interface ofLyX
to add some real code hopping that theLyX
will afford this code and will result a document behavior like if this code had been added to a "real"LaTeX
document. (But as far as I have seen here... this is not always the case).
In any result of the above situation, surely (s)he will need again and again such a help and thus will be driven to learn at least some basic LaTeX
commands in order to not make again and again the same question with just another variable/command/whatever. But then, by gaining soem basic skills in real LaTeX
coding and getting to know how more abilities LaTeX
"coding-approach" is offering, (s)he getting over the bad habit of the WYSIWYG approach and becoming a LaTeX
user from a LyX
user.
So, there are not really many people here familiar with LyX
that are able to help in questions specific to LyX
and in most cases their answer is a general LaTeX
answer by using the "code-mode" of LyX
and the hope that it should/could work.
If the question is LyX
specific, there are people that could help, but they possibly didn't needed much from tex.stackexchange.com and they are not active here, or they have already forgot the LyX
interface as "ex-LyX
" users
answered 9 hours ago
koleygrkoleygr
12.6k28
12.6k28
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I know there are stats and there are statistics but just doing a very simple query on editor tags and I do agree wholeheartedly that it is not a fair test since it is skewed to comparing the IDE tags not the TeX methodology of the OP
[lyx]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=newest&pageSize=50
returns 2,467 questions
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 gives 285 questions
[texmaker]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=newest&pageSize=50 shows 1170
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 shows 245
Without looking deeper, that on its own would suggest LyX gets a better answer ratio approx. double that of Texmaker. However if we count in RECENT 50 for each it is 28/50 unanswered LyX versus 23/50 unanswered Texmaker suggesting that one might observe a more recent decline in LyX answers
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
add a comment |
I know there are stats and there are statistics but just doing a very simple query on editor tags and I do agree wholeheartedly that it is not a fair test since it is skewed to comparing the IDE tags not the TeX methodology of the OP
[lyx]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=newest&pageSize=50
returns 2,467 questions
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 gives 285 questions
[texmaker]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=newest&pageSize=50 shows 1170
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 shows 245
Without looking deeper, that on its own would suggest LyX gets a better answer ratio approx. double that of Texmaker. However if we count in RECENT 50 for each it is 28/50 unanswered LyX versus 23/50 unanswered Texmaker suggesting that one might observe a more recent decline in LyX answers
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
add a comment |
I know there are stats and there are statistics but just doing a very simple query on editor tags and I do agree wholeheartedly that it is not a fair test since it is skewed to comparing the IDE tags not the TeX methodology of the OP
[lyx]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=newest&pageSize=50
returns 2,467 questions
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 gives 285 questions
[texmaker]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=newest&pageSize=50 shows 1170
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 shows 245
Without looking deeper, that on its own would suggest LyX gets a better answer ratio approx. double that of Texmaker. However if we count in RECENT 50 for each it is 28/50 unanswered LyX versus 23/50 unanswered Texmaker suggesting that one might observe a more recent decline in LyX answers
I know there are stats and there are statistics but just doing a very simple query on editor tags and I do agree wholeheartedly that it is not a fair test since it is skewed to comparing the IDE tags not the TeX methodology of the OP
[lyx]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=newest&pageSize=50
returns 2,467 questions
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lyx?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 gives 285 questions
[texmaker]
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=newest&pageSize=50 shows 1170
whilst unanswered
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/texmaker?sort=unanswered&pageSize=50 shows 245
Without looking deeper, that on its own would suggest LyX gets a better answer ratio approx. double that of Texmaker. However if we count in RECENT 50 for each it is 28/50 unanswered LyX versus 23/50 unanswered Texmaker suggesting that one might observe a more recent decline in LyX answers
answered 5 hours ago
KJOKJO
2,9838
2,9838
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
Thanks for the answer, interesting! I am going to look further in these stats, because my first thought was that the answers that lyx are mostly LaTeX answers and thus the question is not really LyX specific. But can't tell this before taking in account a big part of the questions neither can say that the TeXmaker tagged questions have TeXmaker specific answers. I will have a closer look and upvote yours/downvote mine if these stats still holds. (Another approach: I could open one LyX question about things that LyX can't do and give a clear statistical advantage to my question/answer :P)
– koleygr
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Apart from the question raised by KJO whether the data really substantiates the claim that Lyx is being often ignored, I would not be too surprised if Lyx questions tend to be less answered than questions other topics. The reason could be as simple as the fact that among the more expert users, i.e. the users that tend to answer the majority of questions, not too many are using Lyx. This is clearly speculative, but I have a hard time imagining that @egreg or David Carlisle, say, use Lyx to prepare their documents.
add a comment |
Apart from the question raised by KJO whether the data really substantiates the claim that Lyx is being often ignored, I would not be too surprised if Lyx questions tend to be less answered than questions other topics. The reason could be as simple as the fact that among the more expert users, i.e. the users that tend to answer the majority of questions, not too many are using Lyx. This is clearly speculative, but I have a hard time imagining that @egreg or David Carlisle, say, use Lyx to prepare their documents.
add a comment |
Apart from the question raised by KJO whether the data really substantiates the claim that Lyx is being often ignored, I would not be too surprised if Lyx questions tend to be less answered than questions other topics. The reason could be as simple as the fact that among the more expert users, i.e. the users that tend to answer the majority of questions, not too many are using Lyx. This is clearly speculative, but I have a hard time imagining that @egreg or David Carlisle, say, use Lyx to prepare their documents.
Apart from the question raised by KJO whether the data really substantiates the claim that Lyx is being often ignored, I would not be too surprised if Lyx questions tend to be less answered than questions other topics. The reason could be as simple as the fact that among the more expert users, i.e. the users that tend to answer the majority of questions, not too many are using Lyx. This is clearly speculative, but I have a hard time imagining that @egreg or David Carlisle, say, use Lyx to prepare their documents.
answered 36 mins ago
marmotmarmot
108k525
108k525
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If you don't use LyX, there really i no point in answering LyX specific questions (or even knowing if the question is LyX specific or not). See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/283272/… for example.
– John Kormylo
1 hour ago