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This is something I have been wondering: if an assassin wanted to kill their target with a bullet from a sniper rifle, can they dip it in liquid mercury so even if the bullet itself doesn't kill them, the mercury poisoning will? I am looking for scientific basis on how it could be feasible, if it is at all.



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This is something I have been wondering: if an assassin wanted to kill their target with a bullet from a sniper rifle, can they dip it in liquid mercury so even if the bullet itself doesn't kill them, the mercury poisoning will? I am looking for scientific basis on how it could be feasible, if it is at all.



And in case you're wondering: No, I'm not planning to assassinate somebody.










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This is something I have been wondering: if an assassin wanted to kill their target with a bullet from a sniper rifle, can they dip it in liquid mercury so even if the bullet itself doesn't kill them, the mercury poisoning will? I am looking for scientific basis on how it could be feasible, if it is at all.



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This is something I have been wondering: if an assassin wanted to kill their target with a bullet from a sniper rifle, can they dip it in liquid mercury so even if the bullet itself doesn't kill them, the mercury poisoning will? I am looking for scientific basis on how it could be feasible, if it is at all.



And in case you're wondering: No, I'm not planning to assassinate somebody.







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Mercury has, in the real world, been used to increase the terminal effect of hollow point bullets (especially a the relatively low velocity of pistol bullets). In essence, a short time before firing (so as not to have all the mercury amalgamated with the lead, but some liquid still left at firing) a conventional hollow point is filled with mercury. It was common to press a small caliber gas check (a soft metal disk of precise diameter, with a raised edge) into the hollow point to keep the mercury in place.



On impact, the liquid in the hollow point magnified the hydraulic effect, leading to much stronger and faster expansion of the bullet. The mercury itself was chemically insignificant; it was the expansion effect that was sought. Worth noting here that my source (an article in a gun/reloading publication, but I don't recall which, much less what 1970s vintage issue) also found that the effect was essentially the same using water or oil; any difference between mercury and water being attributable to the greater increase in bullet weight.



Most who use guns for defense now consider penetration more important than expansion, so mercury tip bullets (which have long been legally prohibited as "toxic", however erroneously) are no longer widely considered an effective modification.






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    Citation needed. I'm pretty certain it has always been a fictional device, with no practical real world implementation. Mercury tipped bullets will, at best, be no better than the normal kind.
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    Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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    I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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    Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
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    I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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No.



If we just dip the bullet, only trace amounts of mercury will remain on the bullet. That's definitely won't worth the effort.



If we give lead bullet a longer treat with mercury, an amalgam will form. This would adversely affect ballistics. Additionally, amalgam bullet will be likely removed by subsequent surgery, so the efforts would be wasted.



If we enclose mercury in a hollow bullet, that might work - but still would be messy and much less effective than cyanide, for example.






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    No.



    Not even in the form of dimethylmercury.



    This extremely nasty organic compound was being carefully used by professional toxic metal researcher Karen Wetterhahn when a few small drops of it touched the outside of her latex gloves. At the time it was not known that this noxious substance could travel through latex. Nothing could be done, she died less than a year later.



    To make enough stick to a (hot - >100 celsius) bullet in flight, because it would otherwise evaporate before reaching your target, dipping the bullet would not work, you'd need some water soluble delivery system which releases after impact which would not satisfy the requirements of the question - but careful how your protagonist uses it, lest they succumb the same way.



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    Lead is already poisonous, the addition of mercury might be unnecessary if looking to increase the poisoning potential of a bullet. Instead, I would consider using toxin from poison dart frogs in the bullets.



    This toxin is highly lethal to most creatures, including humans, and was used by aboriginal tribes in the rain forest. They coated darts with this poison (likely where the frogs got their name from) and used a blowgun to inject a person with it.



    You could employ a similar mechanism with your bullets, either coating them in poison or putting the poison into a specialised bullet meant for storing the liquid and releasing it upon impact. If you really wanted to use mercury though, you could fill the bullet with that instead.






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      Mercury



      Mercury when ingested targets blood, kidneys, central nervous system, liver and the brain. Large doses of Mercury will lead to easily identifiable health symptoms Administration of a chelating agent can help reduce the effects on the body.



      Acute Mercury poisoning will lead to death, but generally that death will be due to an already existing kidney or liver damage. There is always the possibility that exposure will cause a failure of the central nervous system, which could lead to death.



      In essence, that big new hole in the body from he gunshot wound will be far more fatal either from tissue damage or a secondary infection. But adding the Mercury sure will make your victim uncomfortable until the body sheds the excess amount down to acceptable levels.



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        Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
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        @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
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        The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
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        @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
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      Mercury has, in the real world, been used to increase the terminal effect of hollow point bullets (especially a the relatively low velocity of pistol bullets). In essence, a short time before firing (so as not to have all the mercury amalgamated with the lead, but some liquid still left at firing) a conventional hollow point is filled with mercury. It was common to press a small caliber gas check (a soft metal disk of precise diameter, with a raised edge) into the hollow point to keep the mercury in place.



      On impact, the liquid in the hollow point magnified the hydraulic effect, leading to much stronger and faster expansion of the bullet. The mercury itself was chemically insignificant; it was the expansion effect that was sought. Worth noting here that my source (an article in a gun/reloading publication, but I don't recall which, much less what 1970s vintage issue) also found that the effect was essentially the same using water or oil; any difference between mercury and water being attributable to the greater increase in bullet weight.



      Most who use guns for defense now consider penetration more important than expansion, so mercury tip bullets (which have long been legally prohibited as "toxic", however erroneously) are no longer widely considered an effective modification.






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        Citation needed. I'm pretty certain it has always been a fictional device, with no practical real world implementation. Mercury tipped bullets will, at best, be no better than the normal kind.
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        Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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        I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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        Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
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        I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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      Mercury has, in the real world, been used to increase the terminal effect of hollow point bullets (especially a the relatively low velocity of pistol bullets). In essence, a short time before firing (so as not to have all the mercury amalgamated with the lead, but some liquid still left at firing) a conventional hollow point is filled with mercury. It was common to press a small caliber gas check (a soft metal disk of precise diameter, with a raised edge) into the hollow point to keep the mercury in place.



      On impact, the liquid in the hollow point magnified the hydraulic effect, leading to much stronger and faster expansion of the bullet. The mercury itself was chemically insignificant; it was the expansion effect that was sought. Worth noting here that my source (an article in a gun/reloading publication, but I don't recall which, much less what 1970s vintage issue) also found that the effect was essentially the same using water or oil; any difference between mercury and water being attributable to the greater increase in bullet weight.



      Most who use guns for defense now consider penetration more important than expansion, so mercury tip bullets (which have long been legally prohibited as "toxic", however erroneously) are no longer widely considered an effective modification.






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        Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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        I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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        Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
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        I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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      Mercury has, in the real world, been used to increase the terminal effect of hollow point bullets (especially a the relatively low velocity of pistol bullets). In essence, a short time before firing (so as not to have all the mercury amalgamated with the lead, but some liquid still left at firing) a conventional hollow point is filled with mercury. It was common to press a small caliber gas check (a soft metal disk of precise diameter, with a raised edge) into the hollow point to keep the mercury in place.



      On impact, the liquid in the hollow point magnified the hydraulic effect, leading to much stronger and faster expansion of the bullet. The mercury itself was chemically insignificant; it was the expansion effect that was sought. Worth noting here that my source (an article in a gun/reloading publication, but I don't recall which, much less what 1970s vintage issue) also found that the effect was essentially the same using water or oil; any difference between mercury and water being attributable to the greater increase in bullet weight.



      Most who use guns for defense now consider penetration more important than expansion, so mercury tip bullets (which have long been legally prohibited as "toxic", however erroneously) are no longer widely considered an effective modification.






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      Mercury has, in the real world, been used to increase the terminal effect of hollow point bullets (especially a the relatively low velocity of pistol bullets). In essence, a short time before firing (so as not to have all the mercury amalgamated with the lead, but some liquid still left at firing) a conventional hollow point is filled with mercury. It was common to press a small caliber gas check (a soft metal disk of precise diameter, with a raised edge) into the hollow point to keep the mercury in place.



      On impact, the liquid in the hollow point magnified the hydraulic effect, leading to much stronger and faster expansion of the bullet. The mercury itself was chemically insignificant; it was the expansion effect that was sought. Worth noting here that my source (an article in a gun/reloading publication, but I don't recall which, much less what 1970s vintage issue) also found that the effect was essentially the same using water or oil; any difference between mercury and water being attributable to the greater increase in bullet weight.



      Most who use guns for defense now consider penetration more important than expansion, so mercury tip bullets (which have long been legally prohibited as "toxic", however erroneously) are no longer widely considered an effective modification.







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        Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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        I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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        Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
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        I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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        – Starfish Prime
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        Citation needed. I'm pretty certain it has always been a fictional device, with no practical real world implementation. Mercury tipped bullets will, at best, be no better than the normal kind.
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        – Starfish Prime
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        Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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        – Zeiss Ikon
        1 hour ago










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        I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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        Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
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        – Zeiss Ikon
        1 hour ago










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        I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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        – Starfish Prime
        1 hour ago







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      Citation needed. I'm pretty certain it has always been a fictional device, with no practical real world implementation. Mercury tipped bullets will, at best, be no better than the normal kind.
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      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago




      $begingroup$
      Citation needed. I'm pretty certain it has always been a fictional device, with no practical real world implementation. Mercury tipped bullets will, at best, be no better than the normal kind.
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      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago












      $begingroup$
      Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
      $endgroup$
      – Zeiss Ikon
      1 hour ago




      $begingroup$
      Can't give a citation. I read about this in a gun/reloading source, an article with a "mythbusting" attitude, which showed that yes, there was a definite effect of increasing expansion -- but it was in the 1970s, when hollow points were the rage and those who advocated penetration were largely ignored, at least in the press, and after forty-some years, I don't recall the source. The same article, as I recall, showed that the same effect was obtainable without legal issues using vegetable oil or plain water.
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      – Zeiss Ikon
      1 hour ago












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      I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago




      $begingroup$
      I'm sure that water or oil will have the same effect, to wit: nothing. I'll bet you a beer that you can't find any evidence of mercury bullets being shown to be better than regular expanding rounds. Unless you're in Norway or something, in which case I'll bet you like a shot of beer.
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      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago












      $begingroup$
      Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
      $endgroup$
      – Zeiss Ikon
      1 hour ago




      $begingroup$
      Also worth remembering that bullet design has advanced some over the past four decades. A hollow point that would reliably expand at .380 velocity didn't exist when I learned to reload -- they became available in the mid-1980s. Now they make them for .25 ACP, but everyone wants penetration (fourteen inches!) instead.
      $endgroup$
      – Zeiss Ikon
      1 hour ago












      $begingroup$
      I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
      $endgroup$
      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago




      $begingroup$
      I did find a video of an NaK-filled bullet being used. The alloy is liquid at room temperature. It was shot at very close range (probably a necessity to ensure it actually reached the target) and doesn't appear to be noticably better at expansion than potassium which is merely very soft. Note that in all the cases, the bullet isn't "tipped" so much as the jacket being completely emptied of lead and refilled.
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      – Starfish Prime
      1 hour ago











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      No.



      If we just dip the bullet, only trace amounts of mercury will remain on the bullet. That's definitely won't worth the effort.



      If we give lead bullet a longer treat with mercury, an amalgam will form. This would adversely affect ballistics. Additionally, amalgam bullet will be likely removed by subsequent surgery, so the efforts would be wasted.



      If we enclose mercury in a hollow bullet, that might work - but still would be messy and much less effective than cyanide, for example.






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        No.



        If we just dip the bullet, only trace amounts of mercury will remain on the bullet. That's definitely won't worth the effort.



        If we give lead bullet a longer treat with mercury, an amalgam will form. This would adversely affect ballistics. Additionally, amalgam bullet will be likely removed by subsequent surgery, so the efforts would be wasted.



        If we enclose mercury in a hollow bullet, that might work - but still would be messy and much less effective than cyanide, for example.






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          No.



          If we just dip the bullet, only trace amounts of mercury will remain on the bullet. That's definitely won't worth the effort.



          If we give lead bullet a longer treat with mercury, an amalgam will form. This would adversely affect ballistics. Additionally, amalgam bullet will be likely removed by subsequent surgery, so the efforts would be wasted.



          If we enclose mercury in a hollow bullet, that might work - but still would be messy and much less effective than cyanide, for example.






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          No.



          If we just dip the bullet, only trace amounts of mercury will remain on the bullet. That's definitely won't worth the effort.



          If we give lead bullet a longer treat with mercury, an amalgam will form. This would adversely affect ballistics. Additionally, amalgam bullet will be likely removed by subsequent surgery, so the efforts would be wasted.



          If we enclose mercury in a hollow bullet, that might work - but still would be messy and much less effective than cyanide, for example.







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              No.



              Not even in the form of dimethylmercury.



              This extremely nasty organic compound was being carefully used by professional toxic metal researcher Karen Wetterhahn when a few small drops of it touched the outside of her latex gloves. At the time it was not known that this noxious substance could travel through latex. Nothing could be done, she died less than a year later.



              To make enough stick to a (hot - >100 celsius) bullet in flight, because it would otherwise evaporate before reaching your target, dipping the bullet would not work, you'd need some water soluble delivery system which releases after impact which would not satisfy the requirements of the question - but careful how your protagonist uses it, lest they succumb the same way.



              Edited due to being wrong all over.






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                How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
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              No.



              Not even in the form of dimethylmercury.



              This extremely nasty organic compound was being carefully used by professional toxic metal researcher Karen Wetterhahn when a few small drops of it touched the outside of her latex gloves. At the time it was not known that this noxious substance could travel through latex. Nothing could be done, she died less than a year later.



              To make enough stick to a (hot - >100 celsius) bullet in flight, because it would otherwise evaporate before reaching your target, dipping the bullet would not work, you'd need some water soluble delivery system which releases after impact which would not satisfy the requirements of the question - but careful how your protagonist uses it, lest they succumb the same way.



              Edited due to being wrong all over.






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              • $begingroup$
                How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
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                – Brythan
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              No.



              Not even in the form of dimethylmercury.



              This extremely nasty organic compound was being carefully used by professional toxic metal researcher Karen Wetterhahn when a few small drops of it touched the outside of her latex gloves. At the time it was not known that this noxious substance could travel through latex. Nothing could be done, she died less than a year later.



              To make enough stick to a (hot - >100 celsius) bullet in flight, because it would otherwise evaporate before reaching your target, dipping the bullet would not work, you'd need some water soluble delivery system which releases after impact which would not satisfy the requirements of the question - but careful how your protagonist uses it, lest they succumb the same way.



              Edited due to being wrong all over.






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              No.



              Not even in the form of dimethylmercury.



              This extremely nasty organic compound was being carefully used by professional toxic metal researcher Karen Wetterhahn when a few small drops of it touched the outside of her latex gloves. At the time it was not known that this noxious substance could travel through latex. Nothing could be done, she died less than a year later.



              To make enough stick to a (hot - >100 celsius) bullet in flight, because it would otherwise evaporate before reaching your target, dipping the bullet would not work, you'd need some water soluble delivery system which releases after impact which would not satisfy the requirements of the question - but careful how your protagonist uses it, lest they succumb the same way.



              Edited due to being wrong all over.







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              • $begingroup$
                How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
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                – Brythan
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              • $begingroup$
                How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
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                – Brythan
                51 mins ago















              $begingroup$
              How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
              $endgroup$
              – Brythan
              51 mins ago




              $begingroup$
              How hot do bullets get when fired?. TL;DR: at least 100 degrees Celsius, above the boiling point of dimethylmercury.
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              – Brythan
              51 mins ago











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              Lead is already poisonous, the addition of mercury might be unnecessary if looking to increase the poisoning potential of a bullet. Instead, I would consider using toxin from poison dart frogs in the bullets.



              This toxin is highly lethal to most creatures, including humans, and was used by aboriginal tribes in the rain forest. They coated darts with this poison (likely where the frogs got their name from) and used a blowgun to inject a person with it.



              You could employ a similar mechanism with your bullets, either coating them in poison or putting the poison into a specialised bullet meant for storing the liquid and releasing it upon impact. If you really wanted to use mercury though, you could fill the bullet with that instead.






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                $begingroup$

                Lead is already poisonous, the addition of mercury might be unnecessary if looking to increase the poisoning potential of a bullet. Instead, I would consider using toxin from poison dart frogs in the bullets.



                This toxin is highly lethal to most creatures, including humans, and was used by aboriginal tribes in the rain forest. They coated darts with this poison (likely where the frogs got their name from) and used a blowgun to inject a person with it.



                You could employ a similar mechanism with your bullets, either coating them in poison or putting the poison into a specialised bullet meant for storing the liquid and releasing it upon impact. If you really wanted to use mercury though, you could fill the bullet with that instead.






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                  Lead is already poisonous, the addition of mercury might be unnecessary if looking to increase the poisoning potential of a bullet. Instead, I would consider using toxin from poison dart frogs in the bullets.



                  This toxin is highly lethal to most creatures, including humans, and was used by aboriginal tribes in the rain forest. They coated darts with this poison (likely where the frogs got their name from) and used a blowgun to inject a person with it.



                  You could employ a similar mechanism with your bullets, either coating them in poison or putting the poison into a specialised bullet meant for storing the liquid and releasing it upon impact. If you really wanted to use mercury though, you could fill the bullet with that instead.






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                  Lead is already poisonous, the addition of mercury might be unnecessary if looking to increase the poisoning potential of a bullet. Instead, I would consider using toxin from poison dart frogs in the bullets.



                  This toxin is highly lethal to most creatures, including humans, and was used by aboriginal tribes in the rain forest. They coated darts with this poison (likely where the frogs got their name from) and used a blowgun to inject a person with it.



                  You could employ a similar mechanism with your bullets, either coating them in poison or putting the poison into a specialised bullet meant for storing the liquid and releasing it upon impact. If you really wanted to use mercury though, you could fill the bullet with that instead.







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                      Mercury



                      Mercury when ingested targets blood, kidneys, central nervous system, liver and the brain. Large doses of Mercury will lead to easily identifiable health symptoms Administration of a chelating agent can help reduce the effects on the body.



                      Acute Mercury poisoning will lead to death, but generally that death will be due to an already existing kidney or liver damage. There is always the possibility that exposure will cause a failure of the central nervous system, which could lead to death.



                      In essence, that big new hole in the body from he gunshot wound will be far more fatal either from tissue damage or a secondary infection. But adding the Mercury sure will make your victim uncomfortable until the body sheds the excess amount down to acceptable levels.



                      • https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/96252.htm





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                        Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
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                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










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                        @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
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                        – Liam Morris
                        1 hour ago










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                        The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
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                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










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                        @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
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                        – Liam Morris
                        24 mins ago















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                      Mercury



                      Mercury when ingested targets blood, kidneys, central nervous system, liver and the brain. Large doses of Mercury will lead to easily identifiable health symptoms Administration of a chelating agent can help reduce the effects on the body.



                      Acute Mercury poisoning will lead to death, but generally that death will be due to an already existing kidney or liver damage. There is always the possibility that exposure will cause a failure of the central nervous system, which could lead to death.



                      In essence, that big new hole in the body from he gunshot wound will be far more fatal either from tissue damage or a secondary infection. But adding the Mercury sure will make your victim uncomfortable until the body sheds the excess amount down to acceptable levels.



                      • https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/96252.htm





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                      • $begingroup$
                        Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Liam Morris
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
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                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
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                        – Liam Morris
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                      Mercury



                      Mercury when ingested targets blood, kidneys, central nervous system, liver and the brain. Large doses of Mercury will lead to easily identifiable health symptoms Administration of a chelating agent can help reduce the effects on the body.



                      Acute Mercury poisoning will lead to death, but generally that death will be due to an already existing kidney or liver damage. There is always the possibility that exposure will cause a failure of the central nervous system, which could lead to death.



                      In essence, that big new hole in the body from he gunshot wound will be far more fatal either from tissue damage or a secondary infection. But adding the Mercury sure will make your victim uncomfortable until the body sheds the excess amount down to acceptable levels.



                      • https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/96252.htm





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                      Mercury



                      Mercury when ingested targets blood, kidneys, central nervous system, liver and the brain. Large doses of Mercury will lead to easily identifiable health symptoms Administration of a chelating agent can help reduce the effects on the body.



                      Acute Mercury poisoning will lead to death, but generally that death will be due to an already existing kidney or liver damage. There is always the possibility that exposure will cause a failure of the central nervous system, which could lead to death.



                      In essence, that big new hole in the body from he gunshot wound will be far more fatal either from tissue damage or a secondary infection. But adding the Mercury sure will make your victim uncomfortable until the body sheds the excess amount down to acceptable levels.



                      • https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/96252.htm






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                      • $begingroup$
                        Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Liam Morris
                        1 hour ago










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                        The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
                        $endgroup$
                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Liam Morris
                        24 mins ago
















                      • $begingroup$
                        Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Liam Morris
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
                        $endgroup$
                        – Zeiss Ikon
                        1 hour ago










                      • $begingroup$
                        @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Liam Morris
                        24 mins ago















                      $begingroup$
                      Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Zeiss Ikon
                      1 hour ago




                      $begingroup$
                      Metallic mercury doesn't form soluble compounds easily. if the mercury isn't already in an organic compound form, it's not noticeably worse than lead -- and contrary to popular fiction, bullets are usually left in the body, because removing them will do more harm than leaving them will.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Zeiss Ikon
                      1 hour ago












                      $begingroup$
                      @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Liam Morris
                      1 hour ago




                      $begingroup$
                      @ZeissIkon Surely that seems counter-productive though? Would someone not get lead-poisioning by leaving that bullet inside their body for years? I know that sharp objects that enter the body are usually left in before being removed by medical professionals to prevent further bleeding. I’ve seen vets remove shotgun pellets from a dog before so i am unsure if a doctor would leave a bullet in a human, or at least if that is standard practice.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Liam Morris
                      1 hour ago












                      $begingroup$
                      The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Zeiss Ikon
                      1 hour ago




                      $begingroup$
                      The body "encysts" foreign objects in scar tissue, which insulates the lead bullet from body fluids. The only time bullets are routinely removed if if they're in a location where friction from movement will break down the cyst, or if they're in a location where there's risk of the bullet moving in a harmful way (in the brain, immediately by the spinal cord or aorta, for instance).
                      $endgroup$
                      – Zeiss Ikon
                      1 hour ago












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                      @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
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                      – Liam Morris
                      24 mins ago




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                      @ZeissIkon Oh right, i did not know this. I thought that, just by being in the body, the lead would permeate through the skin and cause lead poisoning that way. I would also assume that, if it were possible to easily remove the bullet (such as if it was not burried too deep) a doctor would prefer to do that than leave it in.
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