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Can I create an upright 7ft x 5ft wall with Minor Illusion?


Can I use Minor Illusion to create a wall, hide behind it, and attack with advantage?How does orienting a cube-shaped spell work in three-dimensional space?Can I use Minor Illusion to create a wall, hide behind it, and attack with advantage?When Silent Image Is Disbelieved, Is It Transparent?Can you use Minor Illusion to create an illusion of a working mirror, i.e. with reflection?Minor Illusion as communication meansMinor Illusion as Camouflage?Can Kenku speak with minor illusion?Can Minor Illusion create sounds/images that the caster has never seen or heard?In the Spell “Guards and Wards” is there a size limit on the doors that can be affected as per the limitations on Minor Illusions?How would something passing through an illusion of fog or mist reveal it to be illusory?Does the Major Image spell allow the caster to fill the 20 ft cube with as many “body doubles” as he/she sees fit?













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Minor Illusion states:




Minor Illusion



If you create an image of an object—such as a chair, muddy footprints, or a small chest—it must be no larger than a 5-foot cube. The image can’t create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an illusion, because things can pass through it.




(emphasis mine). My question is how to interpret this cube. If we rotate the cube vertically so that it looks like a diamond from the side, i.e. the diagonal of the cube is vertical, then a 7ft by 5ft wall would certainly fit, since the diagonal is about 7ft long:



Red is a 5ft cube, blue is a wall 7ft tall, 5ft wide (the width doesn't really matter here)



Is this "layout" of a cube valid? Note that this could potentially change the argument of this answer. Also related.










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    I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
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    Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
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$begingroup$


Minor Illusion states:




Minor Illusion



If you create an image of an object—such as a chair, muddy footprints, or a small chest—it must be no larger than a 5-foot cube. The image can’t create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an illusion, because things can pass through it.




(emphasis mine). My question is how to interpret this cube. If we rotate the cube vertically so that it looks like a diamond from the side, i.e. the diagonal of the cube is vertical, then a 7ft by 5ft wall would certainly fit, since the diagonal is about 7ft long:



Red is a 5ft cube, blue is a wall 7ft tall, 5ft wide (the width doesn't really matter here)



Is this "layout" of a cube valid? Note that this could potentially change the argument of this answer. Also related.










share|improve this question









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    $begingroup$
    I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    54 mins ago














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$begingroup$


Minor Illusion states:




Minor Illusion



If you create an image of an object—such as a chair, muddy footprints, or a small chest—it must be no larger than a 5-foot cube. The image can’t create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an illusion, because things can pass through it.




(emphasis mine). My question is how to interpret this cube. If we rotate the cube vertically so that it looks like a diamond from the side, i.e. the diagonal of the cube is vertical, then a 7ft by 5ft wall would certainly fit, since the diagonal is about 7ft long:



Red is a 5ft cube, blue is a wall 7ft tall, 5ft wide (the width doesn't really matter here)



Is this "layout" of a cube valid? Note that this could potentially change the argument of this answer. Also related.










share|improve this question









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Minor Illusion states:




Minor Illusion



If you create an image of an object—such as a chair, muddy footprints, or a small chest—it must be no larger than a 5-foot cube. The image can’t create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an illusion, because things can pass through it.




(emphasis mine). My question is how to interpret this cube. If we rotate the cube vertically so that it looks like a diamond from the side, i.e. the diagonal of the cube is vertical, then a 7ft by 5ft wall would certainly fit, since the diagonal is about 7ft long:



Red is a 5ft cube, blue is a wall 7ft tall, 5ft wide (the width doesn't really matter here)



Is this "layout" of a cube valid? Note that this could potentially change the argument of this answer. Also related.







dnd-5e spells area-of-effect






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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    54 mins ago













  • 3




    $begingroup$
    I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
    $endgroup$
    – David Coffron
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
    $endgroup$
    – Sdjz
    54 mins ago








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$begingroup$
I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
I mean... I just like your drawing :) +1
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
1 hour ago












$begingroup$
Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
54 mins ago





$begingroup$
Just to be clear is this thing what you mean? (Feel free to use the picture as well if you want, may help some people visualize, not that I'm claiming it can replace your drawing )
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
54 mins ago











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Yes, though a DM might not want to deal with abnormal spell positioning



In the Sage Advice compendium, a similar question was asked about the spell Cloud of Daggers:




Using 5-foot squares, does cloud of daggers affect a single square? Cloud of daggers (5 ft. cube) can affect more than one square on a grid, unless the DM says effects snap to the grid. There are many ways to position that cube.




While the Sage Advice article deals with a different spell, the matter is directly related to your question. To wit: "non-snapped" positioning of a spell's area of effect is legal, strictly speaking, though it might not fly with a DM who can house-rule otherwise.






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    The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
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    – Davo
    56 mins ago






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    Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
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Yes, though a DM might not want to deal with abnormal spell positioning



In the Sage Advice compendium, a similar question was asked about the spell Cloud of Daggers:




Using 5-foot squares, does cloud of daggers affect a single square? Cloud of daggers (5 ft. cube) can affect more than one square on a grid, unless the DM says effects snap to the grid. There are many ways to position that cube.




While the Sage Advice article deals with a different spell, the matter is directly related to your question. To wit: "non-snapped" positioning of a spell's area of effect is legal, strictly speaking, though it might not fly with a DM who can house-rule otherwise.






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    $begingroup$
    Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Mendez
    1 hour ago










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    The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
    $endgroup$
    – Davo
    56 mins ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
    54 mins ago















9












$begingroup$

Yes, though a DM might not want to deal with abnormal spell positioning



In the Sage Advice compendium, a similar question was asked about the spell Cloud of Daggers:




Using 5-foot squares, does cloud of daggers affect a single square? Cloud of daggers (5 ft. cube) can affect more than one square on a grid, unless the DM says effects snap to the grid. There are many ways to position that cube.




While the Sage Advice article deals with a different spell, the matter is directly related to your question. To wit: "non-snapped" positioning of a spell's area of effect is legal, strictly speaking, though it might not fly with a DM who can house-rule otherwise.






share|improve this answer











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    $begingroup$
    Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Mendez
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
    $endgroup$
    – Davo
    56 mins ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
    54 mins ago













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$begingroup$

Yes, though a DM might not want to deal with abnormal spell positioning



In the Sage Advice compendium, a similar question was asked about the spell Cloud of Daggers:




Using 5-foot squares, does cloud of daggers affect a single square? Cloud of daggers (5 ft. cube) can affect more than one square on a grid, unless the DM says effects snap to the grid. There are many ways to position that cube.




While the Sage Advice article deals with a different spell, the matter is directly related to your question. To wit: "non-snapped" positioning of a spell's area of effect is legal, strictly speaking, though it might not fly with a DM who can house-rule otherwise.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Yes, though a DM might not want to deal with abnormal spell positioning



In the Sage Advice compendium, a similar question was asked about the spell Cloud of Daggers:




Using 5-foot squares, does cloud of daggers affect a single square? Cloud of daggers (5 ft. cube) can affect more than one square on a grid, unless the DM says effects snap to the grid. There are many ways to position that cube.




While the Sage Advice article deals with a different spell, the matter is directly related to your question. To wit: "non-snapped" positioning of a spell's area of effect is legal, strictly speaking, though it might not fly with a DM who can house-rule otherwise.







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    $begingroup$
    Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Mendez
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
    $endgroup$
    – Davo
    56 mins ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
    $endgroup$
    – Sebastian Mendez
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
    $endgroup$
    – Davo
    56 mins ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
    54 mins ago







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$begingroup$
Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Mendez
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
Why would it have a gap in the bottom? I assume you could make the wall/object pointy, so it fits in the edge of the cube.
$endgroup$
– Sebastian Mendez
1 hour ago












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The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
$endgroup$
– Davo
56 mins ago




$begingroup$
The wall is the blue part, and is rectangular.
$endgroup$
– Davo
56 mins ago




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2




$begingroup$
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
$endgroup$
– Rykara
54 mins ago




$begingroup$
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the wall was a cube turned on its edge to create a 7' tall barrier using the hypotenuse. Even so, it is contained within a 5' x 5' x 5' cube so it would be legal per my answer.
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