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Problem with TransformedDistribution
Calculate probability functionWhen are `If`, `Piecewise`, `Switch`, and `Which` interchangeable and when are they not?Calculate PDF and CDF of a product of independent exponentially distributed random variablesConditional probabilityFullSimplify on TransformedDistributionNProbability not reliability analysis?TransformedDistribution using $k$ iid random variables, but $k$ not fixedConvolve discrete random variables efficientlyProbability distribution defined by partitioning an intervalDistribution of Function of Random Sum of Random Variables
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I am trying to use Mathematica to obtain the probability distribution of $frac12(A + B)$ where $A$ and $B$ are independent random variables each distributed according to the uniform distribution, with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively.
I suspect the distribution is triangular with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively and mode equal to $frac12(A + B)$. However, I am having difficulty using TransformedDistribution to show that.
My code is:
[ScriptCapitalD] = TransformedDistribution[1/2 (A + B), B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H], A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]
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I am trying to use Mathematica to obtain the probability distribution of $frac12(A + B)$ where $A$ and $B$ are independent random variables each distributed according to the uniform distribution, with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively.
I suspect the distribution is triangular with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively and mode equal to $frac12(A + B)$. However, I am having difficulty using TransformedDistribution to show that.
My code is:
[ScriptCapitalD] = TransformedDistribution[1/2 (A + B), B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H], A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]
probability-or-statistics
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Did you tryPDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?
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– JimB
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Are you awareTriangularDistribution[]is built-in?
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
1
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Why not check the PDFs?Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]
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I am trying to use Mathematica to obtain the probability distribution of $frac12(A + B)$ where $A$ and $B$ are independent random variables each distributed according to the uniform distribution, with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively.
I suspect the distribution is triangular with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively and mode equal to $frac12(A + B)$. However, I am having difficulty using TransformedDistribution to show that.
My code is:
[ScriptCapitalD] = TransformedDistribution[1/2 (A + B), B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H], A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]
probability-or-statistics
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I am trying to use Mathematica to obtain the probability distribution of $frac12(A + B)$ where $A$ and $B$ are independent random variables each distributed according to the uniform distribution, with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively.
I suspect the distribution is triangular with lower and upper bounds of $L$ and $H$ respectively and mode equal to $frac12(A + B)$. However, I am having difficulty using TransformedDistribution to show that.
My code is:
[ScriptCapitalD] = TransformedDistribution[1/2 (A + B), B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H], A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]
probability-or-statistics
probability-or-statistics
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Did you tryPDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?
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– JimB
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Are you awareTriangularDistribution[]is built-in?
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
1
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Why not check the PDFs?Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Did you tryPDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?
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– JimB
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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Are you awareTriangularDistribution[]is built-in?
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
1
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Why not check the PDFs?Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
49 mins ago
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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Did you try
PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?$endgroup$
– JimB
1 hour ago
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Did you try
PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?$endgroup$
– JimB
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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Are you aware
TriangularDistribution[] is built-in?$endgroup$
– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
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Are you aware
TriangularDistribution[] is built-in?$endgroup$
– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
1
1
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Why not check the PDFs?
Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]$endgroup$
– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
49 mins ago
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Why not check the PDFs?
Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]$endgroup$
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You get what you expect if you do it it in two steps
[ScriptCapitalD] =
TransformedDistribution[x/2,
x [Distributed] TransformedDistribution[(A + B),
B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H],
A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]]
(* TriangularDistribution[L, H] *)
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That is very nice!
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– user120911
28 mins ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][z]
(((-30 + z)Sign[-30 + z])/2 - (-20 + z)
Sign[-20 + z] + ((-10 + z)*Sign[-10 + z])/2)/100
For plotting, assign values to L and H:
L = 10; H = 30;
Plot[Evaluate@PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][x], x, 10, 30]

pdF[l_, h_] := Module[L = l, H = h, Evaluate[PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]]]]
Plot[Evaluate @ Flatten@Table[pdF[l, h][x], l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15], x, 0, 15,
PlotRange -> All,
PlotLegends -> (Flatten @ Table[ToString@l, h, l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15])]

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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
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1 hour ago
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You get what you expect if you do it it in two steps
[ScriptCapitalD] =
TransformedDistribution[x/2,
x [Distributed] TransformedDistribution[(A + B),
B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H],
A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]]
(* TriangularDistribution[L, H] *)
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That is very nice!
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– user120911
28 mins ago
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You get what you expect if you do it it in two steps
[ScriptCapitalD] =
TransformedDistribution[x/2,
x [Distributed] TransformedDistribution[(A + B),
B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H],
A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]]
(* TriangularDistribution[L, H] *)
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That is very nice!
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– user120911
28 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You get what you expect if you do it it in two steps
[ScriptCapitalD] =
TransformedDistribution[x/2,
x [Distributed] TransformedDistribution[(A + B),
B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H],
A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]]
(* TriangularDistribution[L, H] *)
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You get what you expect if you do it it in two steps
[ScriptCapitalD] =
TransformedDistribution[x/2,
x [Distributed] TransformedDistribution[(A + B),
B [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H],
A [Distributed] UniformDistribution[L, H]]]
(* TriangularDistribution[L, H] *)
answered 41 mins ago
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That is very nice!
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– user120911
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That is very nice!
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28 mins ago
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That is very nice!
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][z]
(((-30 + z)Sign[-30 + z])/2 - (-20 + z)
Sign[-20 + z] + ((-10 + z)*Sign[-10 + z])/2)/100
For plotting, assign values to L and H:
L = 10; H = 30;
Plot[Evaluate@PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][x], x, 10, 30]

pdF[l_, h_] := Module[L = l, H = h, Evaluate[PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]]]]
Plot[Evaluate @ Flatten@Table[pdF[l, h][x], l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15], x, 0, 15,
PlotRange -> All,
PlotLegends -> (Flatten @ Table[ToString@l, h, l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15])]

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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][z]
(((-30 + z)Sign[-30 + z])/2 - (-20 + z)
Sign[-20 + z] + ((-10 + z)*Sign[-10 + z])/2)/100
For plotting, assign values to L and H:
L = 10; H = 30;
Plot[Evaluate@PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][x], x, 10, 30]

pdF[l_, h_] := Module[L = l, H = h, Evaluate[PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]]]]
Plot[Evaluate @ Flatten@Table[pdF[l, h][x], l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15], x, 0, 15,
PlotRange -> All,
PlotLegends -> (Flatten @ Table[ToString@l, h, l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15])]

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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][z]
(((-30 + z)Sign[-30 + z])/2 - (-20 + z)
Sign[-20 + z] + ((-10 + z)*Sign[-10 + z])/2)/100
For plotting, assign values to L and H:
L = 10; H = 30;
Plot[Evaluate@PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][x], x, 10, 30]

pdF[l_, h_] := Module[L = l, H = h, Evaluate[PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]]]]
Plot[Evaluate @ Flatten@Table[pdF[l, h][x], l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15], x, 0, 15,
PlotRange -> All,
PlotLegends -> (Flatten @ Table[ToString@l, h, l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15])]

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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][z]
(((-30 + z)Sign[-30 + z])/2 - (-20 + z)
Sign[-20 + z] + ((-10 + z)*Sign[-10 + z])/2)/100
For plotting, assign values to L and H:
L = 10; H = 30;
Plot[Evaluate@PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]][x], x, 10, 30]

pdF[l_, h_] := Module[L = l, H = h, Evaluate[PDF[[ScriptCapitalD]]]]
Plot[Evaluate @ Flatten@Table[pdF[l, h][x], l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15], x, 0, 15,
PlotRange -> All,
PlotLegends -> (Flatten @ Table[ToString@l, h, l, 0, 5, h, 10, 15])]

answered 1 hour ago
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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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That confirms my intution, but can you get Mathematica to output the PDF for the triangular distribution? That is what I am having trouble doing.
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– user120911
1 hour ago
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That was a typo. But I am still not getting what I expect.
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– user120911
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Did you try
PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y]?$endgroup$
– JimB
1 hour ago
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PDF[[ScriptCapitalD], y] produces one expression with a denominator that looks correct, but the triangular distribution is split at the mode. Mathematica is not showing that. At least not in a way that is easy to see.
$endgroup$
– user120911
1 hour ago
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Are you aware
TriangularDistribution[]is built-in?$endgroup$
– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
1 hour ago
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Why not check the PDFs?
Simplify[PDF[TransformedDistribution[(a + b)/2, a, b [Distributed] UniformDistribution[l, h, l, h]], t] == PDF[TriangularDistribution[l, h], t], l < t < h]$endgroup$
– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
49 mins ago